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1 posted on 06/28/2011 5:34:47 AM PDT by scottfactor
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Also, more and more employers require a drug test. SO... if you get government assistance while you are unemployed, how can you ever get off welfare and find work if you do drugs?

Duhh


2 posted on 06/28/2011 5:38:06 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils. " Arthur Wellesley)
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good article. makes some fair and valid points.
i would like to see the overall standards for welfare tightened. i think that would have far more savings and benefits. (as the GOP congress did under Clinton.)

this would save little, have little positive effect, and bad unintended consequences.

will they stop using drugs? no. absolutely not.
so, if you take away their welfare, what will they do?
begin mugging and stealing from honest citizens, if they are not already.
(which is one of the MANY good reasons why i support legalization. make drugs cheap, so they won’t steal from functional citizens.)
also, in MANY cases, there might be a mother on drugs, and this money actually does help her children.

this will not accomplish anything except saving a small amount of tax money, which will be used up 10 fold in extra costs in police and family services.


3 posted on 06/28/2011 5:46:47 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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Yeh right....then we will additionally foot the bill for rehab....which means more free stuff...They even cook the meals for you...clean bedding....friendly atmosphere with your best buds...Very good idea!! S/


4 posted on 06/28/2011 5:47:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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How about angus steak testing?


7 posted on 06/28/2011 5:57:37 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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This will outrage cut and run and all his paulbot disciples. I can hear them now; “Where in the Constitution does it say drug testing of parasites is allowed”?
8 posted on 06/28/2011 5:58:07 AM PDT by John D
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and to me, the biggest benefit from ending the war on drugs, is it will end the drug war in Mexico.
(if you remove the profit, then the cartels will go away.
all that death and violence, is simply about making money.)

and, even more important, Islamists, like the Taliban, get major funding, from our drug war ! take away the profit, and they get nothing to support themselves.


10 posted on 06/28/2011 6:15:22 AM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: scottfactor

That’s Racist

(SARC)


11 posted on 06/28/2011 6:22:03 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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"Should we require people who receive taxpayer money welfare handouts to submit to random drug testing?"

Yes. All members of congress should be tested on at least a quarterly basis.

13 posted on 06/28/2011 6:34:41 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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http://www.policeone.com/police-technology/articles/2835269-New-technology-to-help-in-roadside-drug-testing/

Let’s take TSA out of the airports and have them screen potential welfare recipients. The gadget above is a skin test, not a urine or breath test, and would mean a multimillion dollar production contract. Buy stuff- employ TSA- harass people, sounds like a natural for FedGov.


16 posted on 06/28/2011 7:06:13 AM PDT by DBrow
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Along these same lines, let's drug test everybody who gets a tax refund, fed or state. Now, you say, that's not right - it's your money. But no, actually it is the gov’t money to refund or not. Before the gov’t gives anybody any money for anything, shouldn't they be tested, lest they spend that money on unapproved activities?

Shouldn't people be testing for drugs & alcohol when people apply for or renew a drivers license? Especially alcohol, the major killer on our highways. Perhaps license applicants can be questioned closely about their drinking & drug habits. Their license will be issued depending on the testing & the questioning.

And how can we be giving welfare checks & tax refunds to obviously obese people? They'll just spend it on twinkies. These folks are costing gov’t & society a bundle of cash in medical costs. Medicare & Medicaid recipients can be tested by their doctors when they receive treatment. No pass, no heart medicine.

Later on, the program can be expanded to include tests for cholesterol, sugar, & excessive weight gain.

18 posted on 06/28/2011 8:20:48 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...
This bill was just signed into law by FL Governor Rick Scott. The CNN article is here. I could not find it posted on FR, so I will be doing that in a bit.

Florida Freeper


19 posted on 07/02/2011 6:03:19 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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Drug testing welfare applicants doesn’t seem to be cost effective. Interesting results from the first 6 weeks.

From Tampa Bay Online:

http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/aug/24/welfare-drug-testing-yields-2-percent-positive-res-ar-252458/

Welfare drug-testing yields 2 percent positive results

Since the state began testing welfare applicants for drugs in July, about 2 percent have tested positive, preliminary data shows.

Ninety-six percent proved to be drug free — leaving the state on the hook to reimburse the cost of their tests.

The initiative may save the state a few dollars anyway, bearing out one of Gov. Rick Scott’s arguments for implementing it. But the low test fail-rate undercuts another of his arguments: that people on welfare are more likely to use drugs.

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Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800 to $60,000 for a program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year.
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More than once, Scott has said publicly that people on welfare use drugs at a higher rate than the general population. The 2 percent test fail rate seen by DCF, however, does not bear that out.


20 posted on 08/25/2011 10:16:27 AM PDT by Chess
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