Posted on 06/22/2011 3:55:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Stephanie Miller loathes Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann and one of the ways she expresses her contempt is through ludicrous speculation.
On her radio show last week, for example, Miller and her producer, Chris Lavoie, along with actor Hal Sparks, took a gratuitous whack at Palin and Bachmann (audio after page break, courtesy of The Radio Equalizer) --
MILLER: Speaking of crazy right-wing newspaper columns, in the Washington Examiner a syndicated columnist, Cal Thomas, claimed that Palin along with Bachmann get a lot of media attention because they represent everything the liberal media hate. They're attractive women who are married to the same men they started with. He went onto write, in Palin's case she and her husband have a Down syndrome child who she refused to abort. Right there you have to offend pro-choice feminists who treat abortion as a sacrament.
LAVOIE: Oh! There are so many things wrong with that piece.
MILLER: Yeah, where do you even start there? We hate them because they haven't been divorced or had abortions, which apparently ...
SPARKS: No, that's actually why Newt Gingrich hates them.
LAVOIE: Yeah, Michelle Obama hasn't been divorced and hasn't had an abortion. As far as we know.
MILLER: Yeah, yeah. I don't, hmm ...
LAVOIE: And how do we know that Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann have never had an abortion?
MILLER: Yes!
LAVOIE: Do we know that?! I think Cal Thomas is making a giant assumption there.
How do we know Palin hasn't had an abortion? Because when she was pregnant with her fifth child and he was diagnosed with Down syndrome, Palin took the road far less traveled. In this circumstance, more than 90 percent of expectant mothers undergo an abortion. If Palin were inclined to have done so, this would have been when, and none of us would have ever heard of Trig Palin.
In an Oct. 27, 2008 article for The Weekly Standard titled "Loathing Sarah Palin: The Two Months Hate of feminists," Joseph Epstein wrote --
Strongly liberal women get most agitated over the issue -- though of course to them it is no issue but a long since resolved matter -- of abortion. Abortion, to be sure, is the great third-rail subject in American politics. But when a male politician is against abortion, these women can write that off as the ignorance of a standard politician, if not himself a Christian fundamentalist, then another Republican cynically going after the fundamentalist vote. A woman not in favor of abortion is something quite different.
And it is all the more strikingly different when the same woman not only holds this opinion on abortion but acts on it and knowingly bears a child with Down syndrome, a child that most liberal women would have thought reason required aborting. What else, after all, is abortion for? (emphasis added)
... (The) rage in their reaction to Governor Palin is emphatically what I do sense on the part of liberal women -- that and delight in any attempt to humiliate her. (Tina Fey, take a bow, and hey, let's watch that Katie Couric YouTube interview one more time!) I wonder if the women who loathe Sarah Palin with such intensity oughtn't perhaps to reexamine the source of their strongly illiberal feelings.
How do we know Bachmann hasn't had an abortion? In addition to being a mother of five, "she and her husband helped raise 23 teenage foster children in their home, as many as four at a time," wrote Stephen Moore in a June 11-12 profile for the Wall Street Journal. "They succeeded in getting all 23 through high school and later founded a charter school."
Palin and Bachmann have raised 10 children between them -- with Bachmann also adopting -- while each woman is still married to the man she married decades ago.
I'll stick my neck out and venture to suggest that abortion leads to fewer children, not an abundance of them.
I’m going to guess that we know that neither of them has had an abortion because they would have revealed it before having been outed by the media, which absolutely would have happened...
Other than that, it’s one of those “when did you stop beating your wife” questions...
I’m going to guess that we know that neither of them has had an abortion because they would have revealed it before having been outed by the media, which absolutely would have happened...
Other than that, it’s one of those “when did you stop beating your wife” questions...
How do they know Mrs. Obama hasn’t had an abortion?
Oh, for the sake of Pete. Stephanie, did your mother have any children that lived?
“Why is it that the lovers of abortion have themselves never been aborted.”
I Suspect that those who support a woman’s “right to choose” mostly have a dog in the fight. Either they or someone they loved has been down that path and it is very personal to them. They seek to avoid their guilt by trying to get the rest of society to buy into it and, in effect, tell them what they did was OK.
Since there have been more than 50 million abortions since the seventies, that’ a lot of women... Plus boyfriends and parents and brothers and sisters etc. That’s why it’s such a hard battle. easily 1/3 of out population have a personal guilt stake.
Scum. Pure scum.
Because the abortion industry has been keeping careful records for decades and offering glimpses of those records to rat operatives who need a little fodder for "opposition research" and legislative vote extortion, that's why. When rat operatives go "digging up dirt", the abortion mills are the first place they look. If either of these women had had an abortion, we would know by now.
I think your post is very wise. The cognitive dissonance is very painful on this issue and pro-life proponents need to remember they are most likely speaking to a woman who’s had an abortion.
I doubt vilifying them does any good for our cause. We need to show them the beauty of becoming pro-life. All Sarah Palin needs to do is say she had the freedom as a woman to make the choice to keep her baby and that she knew it was the right thing to do for her because she had a loving husband and family who were willing to help her with the responsibility. She should recognize that she was in a good situation and found it easier to make that pro-life choice. She should also acknowledge that she knows some women do not have as many options as she had and find the choice much more difficult to make.
That’s it. No name calling or hating. Just the truth.
Yes it does... and the left had better think long and hard... if they start it... we will finish it.
LLS
How do we know Ms. Miller et al. have not had sex with donkeys?
Because even donkeys have standards.
“She should recognize that she was in a good situation and found it easier to make that pro-life choice. She should also acknowledge that she knows some women do not have as many options as she had and find the choice much more difficult to make.”
There are other options other than abortion. Killing a baby is wrong. I don’t care what your circumstances are.
Nope, take a stand. Taking an innocent life is wrong.
Same way we know Barak Ubama is eligible for the US Presidency.
My brother in law once said....why do they get in such an uproar about a women’s right to choose? They want the right to choose where their kids go to school!
Needless to say, being a homeschool mom, I have not been back since!
If they're really pro-CHOICE, then by definition it shouldn't matter to them which way she CHOSE.
PDS and party of death link arms again!
NO cheers, unfortunately.
No, they’re pro-abortion, not pro-choice.
Precisely. :-)
Cheers!
>>...Is it just me, or does this resemble the atmosphere right before the civil war/war between the states?...<<
Could be.
Regardless, liberalism/progressivism and the mid-to-extreme political left in the U.S. *does* resemble a pathological condition of the mind. This exchange between Miller & Lavoie provides yet another example.
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