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HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

Office Citizenship

Age Residency (or years citizen)
Commander in Chief (1 of 1) natural born Citizen

35 14 years resident
Senator (1 of many) Citizen

30 9 years a Citizen
Represantative (1 of many) Citizen

25 7 years a Citizen


1 posted on 06/21/2011 1:55:39 PM PDT by rxsid
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"US SUPREME COURT PRECEDENT STATES THAT OBAMA IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT."

2 posted on 06/21/2011 1:57:06 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

Nice...thanks.


3 posted on 06/21/2011 1:59:36 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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Now, if only it had legs...


4 posted on 06/21/2011 2:01:16 PM PDT by McKayopectate
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Paging Jerome Corsi


8 posted on 06/21/2011 2:13:17 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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Obama will just issue an executive order stating he is eligible to be president. No one will do anything about this.


10 posted on 06/21/2011 2:16:52 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Is anyone else wondering why it took so long for this precedent to surface?

I thought lawyers were more effective than taking 3 years to find a direct precedent.

What complaint/court filing has to happen to make sure this precedent is enforced?


11 posted on 06/21/2011 2:17:28 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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Well. I guess that settles it. I guess Biden should go measure the White House for drapes.


12 posted on 06/21/2011 2:19:59 PM PDT by Kenton (Trust, but carry a gun...)
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Onlt 15 posts and there’s more Obot posts than FReepers.


17 posted on 06/21/2011 2:58:40 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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sfl


18 posted on 06/21/2011 3:09:16 PM PDT by phockthis
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The Dems are going to have to find a way to bail on the Dalai Bama. Maybe this will help.


21 posted on 06/21/2011 3:26:49 PM PDT by ALASKA (CHANGE'n it back !!!!!!!)
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Leo stopped playing poker long enough to do his homework at Freerepublic! ... A bit late to the party though.


22 posted on 06/21/2011 3:27:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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Ping


23 posted on 06/21/2011 3:39:12 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Amazing article. Thanks for posting.


24 posted on 06/21/2011 3:39:18 PM PDT by Weirdad (Don't put up with ANY voter fraud...)
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Donofrio:

ARKENY V. GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF INDIANA

The Minor case has been severely misconstrued in the Arkeny opinion issued by the Indiana Court of Appeals. That court quoted Minor’s natural-born citizen language, then stated:

“Thus, the Court left open the issue of whether a person who is born within the United States of alien parents is considered a natural born citizen.”

False. The Minor Court did not leave that question open. Nowhere in the Minor opinion does it state that the class of persons who are natural-born citizens is an open question. The Arkeny Court has it backwards.

The Supreme Court in Minor stated that the “citizenship” of persons who were not natural born citizens was an open question.

That is the most important sentence I’ve ever written at this blog. So please read it again. [edit: emphasis added] The “citizenship” of those born to non-citizen parents was a question that the Minor Court avoided. But they avoided that question by directly construing Article 2 Section 1. In doing so, the Supreme Court in Minor defined the class of persons who were born in the US to citizen parents as “natural-born citizens”.

Since Minor, no Amendment has been adopted which changes that definition, and no other Supreme Court case has directly construed Article 2 Section 1. ”.



A closer reading of Minor and Happersett ... Donofrio is correct. The Supreme Court cites "some authorities" (Commie Fogblowers of the time) that a class of persons born in the jurisdiction are NBC, but not them, and they do construe in their opinion the natural born citizen clause in the US Constitution in deciding Minor as a citizen. We missed this for years...

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From MINOR V. HAPPERSETT, 88 U. S. 162 (1874)

"The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their

Page 88 U. S. 168

parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case, it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens."

-end snip-

25 posted on 06/21/2011 3:42:09 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Here, the Minor Court cites the first naturalization act of 1790 to the effect that persons born of US citizen parents – outside the jurisdiction of the US – are “considered as natural-born citizens”. So, here we can see that while the Minor Court only recognizes two paths to citizenship, birth and naturalization… it is clear that some persons who, at the time of their birth, are US citizens, require naturalization for such status.

Just because it was in a Naturalization Act doesn't mean it requires an act of naturalization. Jeez, this guy stoops to Clintonesque levels of obfuscation.

27 posted on 06/21/2011 3:52:42 PM PDT by Kleon
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Blast from the past...105
28 posted on 06/21/2011 3:56:46 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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I’m not sure why Donofrio is patting himself on the back over this. I’ve been citing the Minor decision and its definition of NBC for months, as well as the affirmation of that decision in Wong Kim Ark that the Minor decision recognized citizenship on the combined basis of BOTH jus soli and jus sanguinis criteria. What this doesn’t do, however, is buy anyone “legal standing.”


30 posted on 06/21/2011 3:59:28 PM PDT by edge919
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bookmark

Apart from this, the fact remains that we need a public procedure and process for challenge and remedy on the issue of a person’s constitutional eligibility to serve as POTUS.

It’s appalling that after the debacle this issue has become in these years, that Legislatures are simply willing to lope into the future, courting the same madness, which otherwise can be rather simply avoided.

If one state would pass an eligibility statute, the matter can be litigated and settled. There is no downside to this.

The fact that states now seem disinclined to pursue such a reasonable course lends credence to the criticism that the “birther” issue was only about “getting” Obama. It was not. It was, for many, simply about vouchsafing the Constitutional standard by enacting a public procedure and process that addressed the modern circumstance of complicated parentage and birthplace questions.


47 posted on 06/21/2011 4:41:40 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding their comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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You betcha! It’s been there all along.


55 posted on 06/21/2011 5:05:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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The mind, it is boggled.


91 posted on 06/21/2011 8:44:48 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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