Project Gunrunner: Stupid Is As Government Does

FRee Republic ---Freedom's Last Stand On The Internet | 6/19/11 | AlanLevy

[Absolutely Nobama]

From the Second Amendment-hating fascists at ATF:

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"Project Gunrunner’s objective is to deny Mexican drug cartels the “tools of the trade,” which they employ to murder rival drug traffickers, civilians, as well as political, military, and law enforcement figures in order to strengthen their grip on the lucrative drug and firearms routes into and out of the United States."

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/programs/project-gunrunner/

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This stupidity gave birth to Operation "Fast and Furious".

The idea was this: Allow the straw purchases of weapons in US southern border states and track the weapons to the cartel kingpins, while hoping no one was killed along the way. 2000 weapons were released into Mexico, but only 600 have been recovered thus far. In other words, we have 1400 unaccounted for military grade weapons in a rapidly failing state on our southern border. This government brain fart cost Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry his life, along with God knows how many innocent Mexican civilians.

Angry yet ? No ? Maybe this will make you angry:

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"$10 million in ARRA funding is hiring 37 ATF employees to open, staff (via new hire and relocation of senior personnel,) equip, and operate new Project Gunrunner criminal enforcement teams in McAllen, TX; El Centro, CA; and Las Cruces, NM (which includes a subordinate satellite office in Roswell, NM.). Additionally, these funds support the assignment of two special agents to each of the U.S. consulates in Juarez and Tijuana, Mexico to provide direct support to Mexican officials on firearms-trafficking-related issues."

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/programs/project-gunrunner/

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That's right, gang! Chairman Obama's Stimulus scam helped fund Operation "Fast and Furious". (Of course, our Dear Leader denies any knowledge of what Project Gunrunner and the ATF was up to.)

How on God's green and cooling earth did Congress miss this when pushing through the Stimulus package ? Why is it no one, on either side of the aisle, stood up and asked why this would be included in an economic stimulus bill ? (The Republican Panty--no typo--is just as guilty as the Democrat Party. Project Gunrunner was started in 2005 under the Bush administration.)

This is a clear indication that the United States, like Mexico, is on the verge of becoming a failed state. The bureaucracy has become so bloated that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, nor does it care. The Department of Justice has become an Orwellian parody and Congress has become the punch line of a really bad knock-knock joke.

God help us all.

[Absolutely Nobama]

Ping!

[Absolutely Nobama]

Ping!

[muawiyah]

Pushing a wet noodle uphill is hardly a way to conduct an investigation.

This whole Gunrunner idea presumes that "they" already know who the "kingpins" are, so to bust them all they need to do is place a traceable weapon in their hands.

Hmmm?

So why not just bust them?

I find it difficult to believe that all the people in the chain of command that organized and finance this operation are terminally stupid ~ therefore I must accept the idea that SOMEBODY with some serious influence intended to place thousands of military grade weapons in the hands of selected "kingpins".

Sounds just like Obama's belief that it's this government's job to select winners ~ like GM!

Which means this particular permutation of Gunrunner is peculiar to the Obama regime.

[cc2k]

I keep thinking that at some point, the media will pick up on this and expose this story.

Actually, in a normal world, this should lead to something like Reagan's March 4, 1987 address and apology over the Iran-Contra thing. If this was a Republican administration, there would be calls for impeachment of officials, and perhaps even the President himself over this. But since its being run by Demorats, the media will be silent.

I'm not sure what can be done in a free nation when the Media becomes an enemy of the people.

[Malsua]

we have 1400 unaccounted for military grade weapons

Firearms purchased at gun shops in Texas aren't "military grade"

[Malsua]

we have 1400 unaccounted for military grade weapons

Firearms purchased at gun shops in Texas aren't "military grade"

[Malsua]

we have 1400 unaccounted for military grade weapons

Firearms purchased at gun shops in Texas aren't "military grade"

[LucyT]

Project Gunrunner: Stupid Is As Government Does

Article, then # 4 makes a good point.

Thanks, Absolutely Nobama.

[William Tell]

"... the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing ..."

If it were only incompetence which explains this horror, it would be bad enough. Unfortunately, the real explanation is undoubtedly that the Obama administration was attempting to create the "river of iron", legally purchased weapons smuggled to Mexico, in order to use the carnage in Mexico to justify infringing the right to keep and bear arms of U.S. citizens.

The cooperative liberal media chanted the theme loudly and clearly for the last many months and the BATFE took steps to bring the propaganda into "reality"; that is, the liberal reality where the end justifies the means, yet the intention always outweighs an evil result.

I challenge anybody to provide evidence contrary to my claim.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

This was all designed to create an exploitable crisis which could be used to push more gun control on Americans. It never had much to do with actually solving any problems.

[muawiyah]

The "advance gun control" makes sense only if you believe the current regime can keep two or three things in mind simultaneously.

I think that given the criminal records and relationships that came to town with this regime and its friends from the fringe it makes more sense to attribute the whole thing to an ambition to send favored drug cartels more weapons and lots of ammunition.

That's what they'd done in Chicago ~ pick a street gang and reward it for killing its enemies while leaving the cops alone.

[muawiyah]

Regarding "gun control", this whole thing came about mostly after it was clear Republicans were going to win the 2010 elections and take over the House and numerous state legislatures.

It was really unlikely any gun control of any kind could get passed in that environment irrespective of "events" in Mexico.

This regime rewards friends and stiffs its enemies. They don't think anything more complex than that.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

I'm not wrong on this. Creating an exploitable crisis was the goal.

I've been an RKBA activist for over 50 years, this is typical anti gun tactics on a large scale. Smaller schemes are more common, maybe having Obama in charge gave them the courage to try something on a large scale.

[William Tell]

muawiyah said: "... given the criminal records and relationships that came to town with this regime ..."

I hadn't made that connection. Certainly Obama's Chicago background would include some sensitivity to the needs of major illegal drug importers.

But when you have at your disposal the BATFE, you don't need to recruit other anti-gun zealots to your cause. These are the people who would claim that airsoft rifles can be converted into machine guns. Their plans don't have to be factual or logical, they just need to be supported by the administration and the media.

They only have to convince the "fire can't melt steel" crowd.

[muawiyah]

Fortunately the "steel doesn't burn" crowd are in a distinct minority after the 2010 elections.

That always happens when the public returns to its senses and votes in the Republicans.

The fact the Democrats continued on with their stupidity reveals that the true motive was far simpler ~ it was an "opportunity" to use the government itself to transport firearms to their friends in Mexico.

These people are STUPID.

[muawiyah]

Fortunately the "steel doesn't burn" crowd are in a distinct minority after the 2010 elections.

That always happens when the public returns to its senses and votes in the Republicans.

The fact the Democrats continued on with their stupidity reveals that the true motive was far simpler ~ it was an "opportunity" to use the government itself to transport firearms to their friends in Mexico.

These people are STUPID.

[GlockThe Vote]

BINGO!!!!!

[muawiyah]

I think it's safe to say that something that had it's toes in the Bush administration probably had a totally different motive at the time.

Now the motive was simply to get the government to send guns to Mexico to favored individuals.

Think like a criminal for a moment. As soon as you start doing that you see what a clear bright line there was for this whole program once the Obamistas took over the reins of government.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

BATF has always had an anti gun agenda.

"W" never was as pro 2nd amendment as some folks want to believe. His father is totally wishy washy on the issue and Jeb isn't really committed in favor of RKBA. They will go with the flow.

I will still maintain that Gunwalker was concieved as a political tool, an exploitable crisis. If we hadn't taken control of the Houae they would have pulled it off.