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Infantilizing the Culture
Pajamas Media ^ | June 11, 2011 | David Solway

Posted on 06/11/2011 7:22:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 06/11/2011 7:22:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

An outstanding article. Thank you.


2 posted on 06/11/2011 7:41:12 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Kaslin

infantilizing goes hand in hand with feminization of the culture in order to create a climate for endless “nurturing” by the state.


3 posted on 06/11/2011 7:42:55 AM PDT by bioqubit
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To: achilles2000

you’re welcome


4 posted on 06/11/2011 7:49:09 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

This is an excellent article, but I do have one comment on “like”.

“Like” coveys an attitude, emotion or feeling. It’s not something that’s verbally stated or a conscious thought, so the phrases “I said” or “I thought” are not accurate.

“Suzie was so mean to Tammy. I was like, ‘what a brat!’”

Suzie was mean to Tammy and the observer felt hostility toward Suzie. The conscious thought, “what a brat” came later.

I believe that the reason this particular grammatical device took off so well is that it actually filled a gap in the English language. Many times in our daily lives, we feel responses, but don’t take the time to quantify those emotions until later. “Like” accurately describes these situations. Yes, the word “like” literally means, “similar to;” but in a way, that actually is MORE accurate. She didn’t say or think, “what a brat.” She *felt* an attitude similar to the phrase. It helps us to more accurately define complex emotions and vague feelings.

Over the years I’ve tried to come up with something that works as well to take the place of “like” (I hate it as much as the next person) and I just can’t do it. There simply is no better way to express those situations. Now that it’s so entrenched in our lexicon, I do believe that “like” is here to stay.


5 posted on 06/11/2011 8:16:39 AM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: Kaslin

—bflr—


6 posted on 06/11/2011 8:20:13 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Kaslin

Like many here at FR over 30, by the time I was 18 I taking care of my own life, had my own apartment, got myself into college, studied and took and passed my tests, learned the practical implications of using proper English, etc.

By the time I graduated from College, 3 years later, I had a job and my own apartment — decorated in College Student Cool: milk carton shelves, spool dinner table, garage sale bed and sofa. But I bought or acquired those on my own.

The idea of asking Mommy or Daddy to do anything other than let me stop by to use the washing machine once a month or so never even occurred to me.

Now, they stay on Mommy/Daddy’s health insurance into their late 20s. And Mommy/Daddy get involved in the work life and the rest of their life.


7 posted on 06/11/2011 8:21:41 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Marie

I’ve chosen to entertain myself by filling in an unspoken “unto” after yet another inane blurting of “like.” Gives it a dignified, King James air that is really hilarious coming out of some vapid teen (or adult).

There are archaic and dialectical usages that are somewhat akin, too. Here in NC, in the Scotch-Irish dialect, one will often hear “I liked to ...” as in “When I heard that I liked to died.” Liked to have. Like unto.

It’s good for a quiet giggle or two at least. Try it the next time you hear it. It’s better than gritting your teeth.


8 posted on 06/11/2011 8:23:17 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Marie

>>“Suzie was so mean to Tammy. I was like, ‘what a brat!’”<<

I disagree. In the context you provide, the word “I was, like” is simply a lazy substitution for the phrase “I said.” I have never heard it used as a substitution for a line of thought — it is invariably used to self-quote.


9 posted on 06/11/2011 8:25:38 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedumb2003
I disagree. In the context you provide, the word “I was, like” is simply a lazy substitution for the phrase “I said.” I have never heard it used as a substitution for a line of thought — it is invariably used to self-quote.

That's just simply not true. I just finished raising one teenager and still have one in the house. With the dozens of kids who came through my house over the years, I have *never* heard "like" used as a substitution for "I said." Not once.

When the phase first came around in the mid-80's, it was used in place of "I said", but it very quickly developed into a way to express an attitude, feeling or emotion and has been used that way since.

10 posted on 06/11/2011 8:36:14 AM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: freedumb2003

My employer sent out notices on how adult “children” can qualify for the company health insurance, even if they were employed, married, or had children of their own. Yet all three conditions are a sign of at least adulthood, if not maturity.


11 posted on 06/11/2011 8:40:05 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Kaslin

Remember our Ford loves infants.


12 posted on 06/11/2011 9:20:44 AM PDT by SoCal SoCon (Conservatism =/= Corporatism.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I do that all the time now, RC. People stare sometimes, but I’m like unto being, “Whatever.”


13 posted on 06/11/2011 9:24:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("WWSP?" - What Would Sionnsar Post?)
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To: Marie
That's just simply not true. I just finished raising one teenager and still have one in the house. With the dozens of kids who came through my house over the years, I have *never* heard "like" used as a substitution for "I said." Not once.

It is substituted for "I said" in over half the instances I hear it.

When the phase first came around in the mid-80's, it was used in place of "I said", but it very quickly developed into a way to express an attitude, feeling or emotion and has been used that way since.

I have observed the same metamorphosis, but in this context "like" simply replaced "I thought" or "I felt" -- ordinary expressions that English-speaking people have adequately and accurately communicated for many generations.

14 posted on 06/11/2011 9:44:24 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Kaslin
"The plague of political correctness which “progressively” devitalizes us is only another index of mental decay, as if, let’s say, retitling the famous fairy tale as “Snow White and the Seven Vertically Challenged Persons” would change the fact that there are dwarves and midgets in the world. Indeed, PC is merely an extension of the pervasive inability to parse the world accurately, to think clearly, and to accept descriptive aptness as a legitimate and necessary modality of adequacy to experience. It is part of the same syndrome of retardation, the degrading of the grammar of thought, in short, the imping of the mind that afflicts the culture at large." -David Solway

An apt summation of Solway's brilliant article. Thanks, Kaslin.

15 posted on 06/11/2011 9:49:11 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Tax-chick

That’s like unto hilarious.


16 posted on 06/11/2011 10:46:33 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Always A Marine

In my exposure, “I was like” expresses a thought, emotion or words one would have liked to have said at the time. Words actually said have been indicated by “I go.”

A typical exchange would be: “And I go, ‘no way’ and she goes ‘yes, way,’ and I go ‘omigod.’ I was like that is so nasty.”


17 posted on 06/11/2011 11:02:22 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kaslin

By the the way, did you notice that, ironically, there is very basic grammar error in the sentence in the first paragraph that begins “This is a generation...”?


18 posted on 06/11/2011 11:34:27 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Kaslin

Excellent article. Thank you.


19 posted on 06/11/2011 1:42:18 PM PDT by Em and Brets Mum ("Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which we will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: achilles2000

Now that you point it out, I has.


20 posted on 06/11/2011 1:50:58 PM PDT by x
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