I would have at least 3 of them out there, It's not unusual for the wolves to weigh up to 165 pounds also.
Posted on 06/03/2011 8:41:01 PM PDT by george76
What began nearly 20 years ago as denial of the many bad things that would happen in the Greater Yellowstone area if gray wolves were brought in from Canada, continues to this day. It was predicted that the wolves would kill off their prey base and that is happening. Information was presented to Ed Bangs, USFWS head of wolf reintroduction that wolves carry more than 30 different infectious diseases, some harmful and/or deadly to humans, and that was ignored. Disease is now becoming a common occurrence across the Northern Rockies where wolves are prolific. The same deaf, dumb and blind authorities were warned that wolves, once they had consumed their prey base, would focus in on livestock, and that too was passed off as insignificant.
It has been stated that gray wolves will attack and kill large prey, such as elk, moose, mountain lions and bears, yet wolf protectors deny that wolves could bring down a grizzly, take on a wild cat and the like. Yet, it is happening on a daily basis now.
It was predicted, wolves would resort to livestock killing, first taking on the easiest of kills – sheep, and family pets. That has happened. The same predictions said as the wild canines got hungrier from the destruction of their own food source, would move into residential areas looking for food. That too has happened and is becoming more frequent.
It has been argued whether or not wolves would attack and take down a horse. Wolf protectionists have denied such an event has ever happened and would never happen. ...wolf attacks on horses were a common thing in Russia and other Asian and European countries.
And now, we have a confirmed attack and kill by wolves on a family’s prized quarter horse in Darby, Montana.
(Excerpt) Read more at mainehuntingtoday.com ...
The UN Agenda 21 is working as expected ?
55gr V-max is available and is what I like.
Your 1-in-9 is PERFECT for the 55gr weight.
Your Savage is one of the more accurate factory rifles out there in .223. I’ve shot two of them (other guy’s guns) and was impressed as all get out with both of them in terms of “bang for the buck” if you pardon the pun. For the purist in rifle appearance, the barrel nut is a big turn-off, but for price-effective accuracy, the Savage rifle delivers excellent value. I think their triggers can be improved greatly tho. Don’t like their factory trigger feel. Very “crunchy.” But that does not alter their fundamental accuracy.
100gr out of a -06 will result in big holes in the other side, if you’re using a 100gr varmint pill. If that’s what you want, and you’re not shooting in an area where you need to worry about over-penetration, hey, whatever works for you. I’ve shot coyotes with a .17HMR as well, and there is no over-penetration there. Go for a lung shot, with the coyote quartering away from you and they’ll drop quickly. Hit him when he’s nice and still, and if you hit him about 1/2” behind the ear, about 1” lower than the middle of the ear, when he’s quartering away from you... they go down like a sack of bricks - again, with zero over-penetration. I’ve also shot ‘yotes with a .338WM - because it was what I had on me at the time. I’ve shot them with a .250-3000, a .223, a .308, .270... .45-70, .357, .45ACP, 9mm, .22LR, 12ga, 20ga, ..... dead is dead.
I’ve run down coyotes with a F-350, a Toyota, a Honda four-wheeler and I’ve dropped rocks on them off a cliff.
As you can tell, I’m not Mr. Coyote’s buddy.
Wolves, being about 2X the mass of coyotes... I’d probably go for the .223 or a .270/.280/7mm/.30xx round with a light varmint pill.
I’d go with a pill that “explodes and dumps” in the OP’s situation, or a shotgun, because a high powered, heavily jacketed round will go through and through — and might endanger other livestock in neighboring pastures.
My hat's off to you, NV Dave. You understand Nevada, and its wildlife, as I like to pretend that I do.
Ping.
I would have at least 3 of them out there, It's not unusual for the wolves to weigh up to 165 pounds also.
Yes, it takes a loooonnggg time for a pack to bring down a terrified prey, with each member going at it in turn to inflict small but debilitating injuries to the legs and joints while relentlessly running the prey to complete exhaustion. It is a horrific way to die. I’d rather be taken down by a lion.
Thanks for the ping.
I hope that your trips are going well. It is always good to hear from you
This is what happens when you don’t cull your herds or packs in this case. Sterilize some of them.
I agree. They would kick the you know what out of them.
I'm Freeping as much as possible these last two days because I'm back into the sticks again on Sunday evening. Oh, I had another mountain lion encounter about 7-10 days ago. (After awhile, you forget the month, the day, the week, etc.)
Scared the heck out of me and my female partner. Middle of the pitch-black night.
More details at 11.
I've always wanted to say that. Ha ha!
Catch ya tomorrow and maybe Sunday morning.
Have you seen these :
HAMILTON, Mont. — In the past couple weeks we’ve reported a couple stories of attacks by wolves on domestic animals in the Bitterroot...
Now, a Hamilton man shot a mountain lion in his backyard. The cougar had killed a sheep and came back to feast on a goose.
http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/28102162/detail.html
A second item about a mountain lion that was curled up on the porch of a Helena home.
Isn’t it amazing how the nature photogs always have somebody with a caribine in hand?
One thing I always take away from the PBS nature shows: top level predators are sorely needed everywhere.
So what’s the answer? Recompense the farmer for lost sheep? How to deal w/bears? Then there’s the little guy carnivore, i.e., coyote
Is coyote a nuisance? What about the cougar? Racoon?
Make a comparison of how many wolves killed domestic animals as compared, in the State of Montana, to the number of human beings who killed other humans. It seems to me, the wolf, for the most part, kills only to eat, where on the other hand, humans kill other humans, not because they are hungry but because they hate.
I killed caribou last sept at 550 yards with same ammo using a horseshoe acog. Good stuff.
Wolves acting like killin machines is their nature. They are really working over the caribou now as they drop their calves.
I'm having over a dozen bear coming into our barrel, all day & night long. The game camera is the ticket.
Just raise your own pack of Kangals. BTW, it isn’t just size that makes the Kangal deadly to wolves. The Kangals are more athletic than wolves - I’ve read some amazing stories. Caucasian Ovcharkas would also be good for discouraging wolves from visiting.
This isn’t about city people wanting to look at the cute wolves. This is about taking away your weapons. Wolves were reintroduced by the liberals/Democrats/socialists/progressives so that they could take away the argument for hunting that says hunters help keep the herds healthy. They want everyone to see the wolf as being capable of that job. As the wolves slaughter the deer, elk and moose, the argument begins that hunting must be restricted to keep these populations from going too low. Then, the argument becomes “Why do you need those rifles? There aren’t enough deer to hunt anymore.” It’s much more devious than you think.
Poison will slow ‘em down. Botanical poisons have the added benefit of looking like a natural event.
Mahar, whose a deputy county attorney, is a hunter and saw the marks of a big cat. "I was relieved to see that this was looking like a lion instead of a pack of wolves," he said.
I agree with him. I would much rather deal with a lion than a pack of wolves.
Fortunately, there are no wolves in my neck of the woods.
Yet!
I am not a violent person and would take no joy in killing an animal. However, if this was my property, my kid’s lives, my livestock etc... I would do exactly what you described. A pre-dug hole just waiting. The article stated that the wolves are on this person’s property every night so I would wait and do what was needed to be done. Plain and simple. I certainly wouldn’t wait for some guy behind a desk to decide to issue a piece of paper.
Glad to see you’re home for awhile but it doesn’t sound like it’s for long. Some people have all the luck, they get paid for doing what you do. :-)
I imagine that was a bit spooky in the middle of the night, keep checking your six, Fly.
We had two llamas guarding our barbado sheep. Neighbors pack of dogs killed three rams and injured two more . NOTHING can take care of a pack of animals. The one llama took down a chain link fence to get to OUR dogs but they just couldn’t deal with so many animals.
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