That’s the first I’ve read that McCain was not born in the Canal Zone. Is this true?
He was born in a public hospital in Colon, Panama.
But it doesn’t matter - the Canal Zone always was, and still is, Panamanian sovereign soil. We leased the Canal Zone and operated it administratively - we never owned it outright.
There have been many Freepers, born in the Canal Zone, who’ve posted here that they have always known that they are not eligible to be President. For the record, neither is John McCain.
Yes. Many naval bases were Spartan in Overseas sites. Conditions such as family care and child birth were handled at local hospitals. McCain was born outside the CZ in Panama.
Yes. Many naval bases were Spartan in Overseas sites. Conditions such as family care and child birth were handled at local hospitals. McCain was born outside the CZ in Panama.
That’s why the Senate Judiciary Sub-committee did their little dog and pony show resulting in Senate Resolution 511 which is non-binding. The full Senate never voted on it and the House did not pursue a similar resolution as well.
Further there were multiple ballot challenges to McCain prior to the 2008 election including New Hampshire and California. Guess what, all the cases were dismissed due to LACK OF STANDING!
What of it? His parents were citizens, so it doesn't matter where he was born. He's eligible.
Of course, so is/was Zero, both because he was born in Honolulu and because his mother was American. And so are his neighbors Billy and Bernardine. All it takes is a sheeple stupid enough to elect them. Strunk is a joke. We can't depend on the Constitution to protect us from a stupid sheeple.
Like Obama, Eerily like Obama, even if the ‘narrative’ story is true and McCain was born ‘inside the zone’ it did not matter at the time. That did not given him right of citizenship. It did make him a US national and entitled to the protection of the US. His parents lineage allowed him to be a NATURALIZED citizen via the 1795 Naturalization act.
The Supreme Court made it clear in in early 1900s ruling that in the case of the Canal Zone - “the Constitution did not follow the flag”.
See Section on “Citizenship” here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone
Via the 1795 act McCain DID acquire citizenship. And he did so at the moment of birth. But he was still not a ‘natural born Citizen’. See here:
http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/naturalization/naturalization_text.html
“the children of citizens of the United States born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States. Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend on persons whose fathers have never been resident of the United States.”
Thus EVEN IF HE WAS BORN IN THE CANAL ZONE McCain is a NATURALIZED CITIZEN! Since he is CLEARLY a naturalized citizen he is OBVIOUSLY NOT a natural born Citizen.
We argue a lot here in the forums. But everyone seems to understand that being ‘naturalized’ and being ‘natural born’ are mutually exclusive. Birther, faither, obots, etc. Anyone who truly follows this knows this to be the case. McCain was not a nbC - even if he was born in the Zone. Period. Documented. Easy to show (look above).
Some will argue that later laws changed McCain’s situation? But how is that? How can man made law ‘change a natural law’? No, McCain was a naturalized citizen. From the moment of birth he was red, white and blue. But just not ‘natural’ red, white and blue.
So is McCain the first domino to fall in this god awful mess?
“That’s the first I’ve read that McCain was not born in the Canal Zone. Is this true?”
Yes. It is true.
I was born in Gorgas Hospital, Ancon, Canal Zone, and I still live here in Panama. I have dug crap up about Colon Juan for several years and can state the liar is a fraud.
First and foremost, he is a Panamanian citizen having been born in Colon Hospital, Colon, Rep of Panama. This is stated on his certificate of Live birth (or whatever) issued by the Canal Zone. It states very clearly he was born in Colon Hospital, Colon, Rep of Panama. He probably didn’t think anybody would notice...which is true. But he didn’t fool me or some of us.
Having been born in Panama, his parents never registered his birth in Panama’s National Public Registry. I discovered this after spending a couple of hours at the Public Registry. The staff and I looked a year before his birth, the year he was born, and the year after.
Since he was now a Panamanian citizen by birth, whether his Panamanian birth was registered or not, he took out his parents’ citizenship as a second nationality since they were Americans and could by US law. This means, his second citizenship is U.S. He is considered dual.
And yes, he could run for president of Panama, but he would be laughed out of the county.
P.S.
All of us Americans born in the Canal Zone are not eligible to run for president….Good. Who wants to.
I can’t state the law, but that is fact. Had Colon Juan been born in the Canal Zone, he still could not have run for president.
No. It's a birther myth. It comes from a a fake birth certificate that's floating around the internet saying he was born in Colon, but he was really born on the Coco Solo naval base within the canal zone.