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High Court Rules Calif. Must Cut Prison Population
npr ^ | May 23, 2011 | by Nina Totenberg

Posted on 05/23/2011 9:54:13 PM PDT by Rabin

California's three-strikes law, which imposes mandatory 25-year minimums on three-time offenders, even if their crimes are nonviolent. "There are a lot of second-strikers who get their sentence doubled just because they've had another strike. So, instead of a burglary being five years, automatically it's 10," Specter said.

Severe overcrowding in state prisons has resulted in extreme suffering and death, a deprivation of the (American) rights violate the Constitution and the 1995 federal Prison Litigation Reform Act, as well.

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TOPICS: Government; Society
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Speechless, The SCLs got it right.

Raben

1 posted on 05/23/2011 9:54:16 PM PDT by Rabin
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To: Rabin

Prison nation.

Eventually you run out of other peoples money.


2 posted on 05/23/2011 9:58:55 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Rabin

Great, now they get released into our neighborhoods-—I’ve already got one of those apes living next door. And California’s bankrupt government? All they want is more money-—they don’t give a damn about taxpayers!


3 posted on 05/23/2011 10:01:28 PM PDT by Tea Party Reveler
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To: Soothesayer9

Ok release 40,000 mexicans and send them home on a big ship.


4 posted on 05/23/2011 10:01:55 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Rabin

They should follow Turkey’s prison system (at least when we were there). The prisoners were housed by the government but fed by those outside who cared to keep them alive.


5 posted on 05/23/2011 10:06:20 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Tea Party Reveler
Great, now they get released into our neighborhoods-—I’ve already got one of those apes living next door.

You are correct sir. I think crime will go UP more than any of us want. I am almost sure I will leave the state as soon as I retire. There are other reasons too, but that is one of them.

6 posted on 05/23/2011 10:07:06 PM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: Rabin

The 13th Amendment to the Constitution of the USA denies Felons Constitutional Rights. Maybe a judge or 9 needs to go back to school or at least read what they are supposed to defend/interpret


7 posted on 05/23/2011 10:10:38 PM PDT by RMFC
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To: Mark17

You had better get out while you still can. I put bars on my windows and doors. I installed security cameras all the way around the property. The cops here are useless-—one even lives right across the street and he is oblivious to what goes on right in front of him on this street. This bankrupt state sucks! Youtube = Sewer Soon City Police Misconduct


8 posted on 05/23/2011 10:11:06 PM PDT by Tea Party Reveler
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To: Rabin

I’m sure they’ve all learned their lesson and are now ready to become honest productive members of society. (choke..gag...spit..)


10 posted on 05/23/2011 10:17:13 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Rabin

I have an idea. Why don’t they cut government staff? Those people are in jail for a reason.


11 posted on 05/23/2011 10:20:50 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Tea Party Reveler

I am just moving.

California has just become untenable — tax those who work hardest, subsidize those who work least, invite illegality in almost all forms (of course starting with illegal aliens), and now release criminals into the general populace.

More people in the cart than pulling it — and then allow highwaymen to rob those pulling the cart!


12 posted on 05/23/2011 10:22:06 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Rabin

I think it’s all part of the process of discrediting the constitution.

By not enforcing it at all, whenever possible, when it benefits the average person, but enforcing to the letter, when it has a negative effect on the average person, the leftists are trying to create conditions where the average person is more then happy to get rid of such a document, becvause they’ve learned nothing good ever comes from the constitution.


13 posted on 05/23/2011 10:24:44 PM PDT by Jonty30
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No idea why you are still in Californobodybutliberals, but the Supreme Court said building new jails was NOT a remedy. ONLY a full release was a remedy.

Yes, the ruling was that insane.

We are in the final, shaking and spasming, death throes, as a country.

So move out.

It won't help.

14 posted on 05/23/2011 10:33:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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No idea why you are still in Californobodybutliberals, but the Supreme Court said building new jails was NOT a remedy. ONLY a full release was a remedy.

Yes, the ruling was that insane.

We are in the final, shaking and spasming, death throes, as a country.

So move out.

It won't help.

15 posted on 05/23/2011 10:33:12 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: Lazamataz

>>It won’t help.<<

In the final analysis we can only help ourselves as individuals.

Thus, I must do what is in the best interests of my family — and that to go where the values are closer to mine.

But I understand what you say and I share your frustration.


16 posted on 05/23/2011 10:39:52 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Rabin
This is California, a state with extreme extremes. We don't need super fancy prisons - put tents in the middle of the Mojave - no one’s going to escape from there. Too hot? How about building igloos in the fifty foot deep snowpack in the Sierra's? That's cruel? Then it's time for the Ultimate Survivor! Put 45,000 prisoners on one of the many islands off the coast.

But nope, nope, all the money for the prisons went to the pampered prison guard unions and their incredible pension programs. There was literally nothing left to explore any alternatives, not to mention an army of lawyers who troll up and down the state for some reason to sue the corrections system.

For twenty years virtually nothing was done, and now a third of the prisoner population is going to get released. Place your bets now as to how many prison guards are laid off because of this, or how much their salary is reduced from the smaller workload... RIGHT! NOTHING!

And there's no money for the state to transfer prisoners to county facilities, because between the teachers and the prison guards, there isn't a penny left.

I say a pox upon both houses - send the prison guards and the teachers to guard the prisoners in the middle of China Lake NAWS. Seriously, nothing can be done in this state until public union salaries and benefits are brought under control. And the only way that’ll happen is if the state is so deep in the red that no one would even consider loaning California any more money.

17 posted on 05/23/2011 10:58:14 PM PDT by kingu (Legislators should read what they write!)
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To: FlyingEagle

When your govt is on the edge of financial disaster, everything must be cut. Even prisons.

Time for us to ante up, buy ammo and start defending ourselves instead of depending on nanny government/lea agents to come save us from every boogeyman that peeks out from under a rock.


18 posted on 05/23/2011 11:02:21 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Tea Party Reveler
yeah, and you can't even carry a gun to defend yourself against them once they're out and among you. Remember Johnny Acosta who killed an Iraqi war veteran with a hammer over in San Bernardino? Acosta was a convicted killer and rapist who was released early into society. He was originally sentenced to 22 years for voluntary manslaughter and attempted rape. He was released after serving 11 years and then killed Trevor John Neiman with a ball peen hammer 5 years later while Neiman installed cable television in his home.Neiman's death will forever serve as a perfect illustration of the failure of liberal social policies whereby violent criminals are released early and law abiding citizens aren't allowed to defend themselves with CCWs. Brilliant.
19 posted on 05/23/2011 11:30:30 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: Lazamataz
We are in the final, shaking and spasming, death throes, as a country.

When the final, shaking death throes actually come, you'll eat these words.

20 posted on 05/23/2011 11:45:18 PM PDT by dr_lew
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