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To: butterdezillion

Relevent question:

Has anyone (in the news media or elsewhere outside the Zerobama inner circle) actually claimed to have held and personally examined the paper copy(ies) of Zero’s documents?

I know there were two flunkie sycophants that said they examined Zero’s COLB a couple years ago, but they were unqualified and kool-aid drinkers, so they don’t count.

Shortly after Zero’s people posted the birth certificate on the white house website there was a flurry of snippets saying that the media had been invited into the white house to personally verify the authenticity of the documents. I have yet to hear or read a single first-hand report of any of them saying “yes, I saw it and held it and it looks legit.” Was that whole thing a false flag to get people to shut up or did I just miss the article(s) about it?


23 posted on 05/13/2011 2:12:51 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( Obama's in need of a good Caining next year. )))))
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To: Two Kids' Dad
Even if someone from the ObamaMedia “...saw it and held it and [said] it looks legit,” it would mean nothing.

The only person who could factually make that statement would be a forensic document examiner.

24 posted on 05/13/2011 2:42:40 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

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“Has anyone (in the news media or elsewhere outside the Zerobama inner circle) actually claimed to have held and personally examined the paper copy(ies) of Zero’s documents?”

On page 26 of “Dreams From My Father”, he says his paper copy is folded up and in a book.
Which makes one wonder why he sent to Hawaii for a copy.


25 posted on 05/13/2011 2:45:04 PM PDT by Verbosus (/* No Comment */)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

That was my question also, and I searched high and low without success for several weeks to try to find a first-hand account of somebody who said they had held the document.

Yesterday somebody here pointed me to Savannah Guthrie who says she felt the seal and took a photo of the BC. At my blog I’ve got the link to the obamaconspiracy.org article which has the image and links to the NBC web page containing the video and transcript of Guthrie saying she felt the raised seal. That was the first I was able to find of anybody claiming they actually touched the “certified copy”. Based on the photo she took I do believe there was something raised on the BC she saw/felt but it was so indistinct that it could have been just about anything. And it definitely WASN’T the same seal as was on the Factcheck photos of Obama’s alleged COLB.

Anybody who took seriously the need to verify the authenticity of the document would have tried to get good photos of that seal. Yet the only photo I could find was one by J Scott Applewhite which had no distinct signs of a seal. I can’t say for sure, but I suspect that the media may have guessed that the “seal” wasn’t authentic, or else they would have at least MENTIONED it in their news accounts.

And Obama’s people handed out to the press a 6-page packet of photocopies that used SNOPES as the source for Obama’s COLB image - an image that has no seal showing. Probably because they knew the Factcheck seal doesn’t match.

It would be so easy to come up with a credible forgery. Definitely leaves the question of why they posted such a BAD forgery. My gut tells me it’s because they have something planned that will ensure there is no 2012 election.

So anyway, the short answer to your question is that the only report I know of was Savannah Guthrie on NBC verbally claiming that she touched the raised seal. And this analysis I’ve done is based on the photo she took of the document she held.


30 posted on 05/13/2011 2:53:26 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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