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That birth certificate is phony
WND ^ | May 10, 2011 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/10/2011 10:22:15 PM PDT by RobinMasters

I don't know about you, but I'm persuaded the birth certificate released by Barack Obama's White House is fake, phony, a fraudulent forgery.

Jerome Corsi, who has personally investigated Obama's constitutional eligibility more seriously than anyone else, agrees.

Why?

- Why release only a digital image of a document this controversial – one that cannot, according to forensics experts, be tested for authenticity?

- Why would Kapiolani Medical Center still be so sensitive about Obama's birthplace as to refuse all inquiries about Stanley Ann Dunham's hospital stay – even threatening this week to call the police when the non-threatening 64-year-old Ph.D. and best-selling author Corsi merely had some questions to ask?

- Now that Obama has claimed the hospital as his birthplace, why would Kapiolani still maintain an air of secrecy about it rather than celebrate and mark the historic birth of the first black president and the first from the state of Hawaii?

- Why the anomalies associated with the document – including the so-called "layering" as seen by amateur and professional sleuths who have examined it?

- Why the extraneous pencil markings found on both the White House release and the obvious earlier forgery showing a Kenyan birth?

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To: ml/nj
Have you come up with an explanation why these two signatures look the same?

They are from the paper handout subsequently scanned in by AP.

61 posted on 05/11/2011 6:51:39 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: ml/nj

Executive Summary Re NBC Defined in Constitution Plus 4 SCOTUS Cases

http://www.scribd.com/doc/55105383/Executive-Summary-Re-NBC-Defined-in-Constitution-Plus-4-SCOTUS-Cases


62 posted on 05/11/2011 6:53:55 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: palmer

they were a scan of a copy - notice the lack of a safety background

This image is not a first generation scan from the document provided by Hawaii, and AP admits as much.


63 posted on 05/11/2011 6:55:50 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
When I first learned that there were layers in the document, I found it suspicious. When I went on Youtube to watch the videos 'proving' the document was fake because of the layers, it became clear to me that the layers were machine-created anomalies resulting from the scanning/compression process. If a person were to artificially create a document, there is no way it would look like this one.

I think you have to ask why anyone would write a program to do this either.

Since this Bamie BC II was released my wife sent me a couple of documents that she scanned at her office and they came to me as pdfs. I asked her how she converted them to pdfs and she had no clue. It was just what the scanner sent to her computer. And all the pixels on the documents she sent were of uniform size.

ML/NJ

64 posted on 05/11/2011 7:07:24 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: palmer
I think I told you that it is just a low resolution scan. Here's a low resolution scan I just made from the White House pdf:
Now all the pixel sizes are the same, but that is because I have effectively discarded information. When you look at Saturn with a high resolution instrument, you can see the rings. In cheap binoculars, it's just a dot of light like Jupiter. Same idea here.

ML/NJ

65 posted on 05/11/2011 7:26:59 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Marylander
Interesting theory. Is there an example we can see?

Look at all of the stray letters (particularly the small ones at the top of boxes - those would be the form itself, not the entries). Why would a person creating a fake document break up words like that?

66 posted on 05/11/2011 7:30:31 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Marylander

You just made me think of something- If this is a manufactured ABSTRACT from Hawaii, then where did these HANDWRITTEN NOTATIONS come from?

Who wrote numbers on this? It is NOT a scanned image from one single document, so what REAL documents have handwritten notations?

WHAT “WAIVERS” DID OBAMMY HAVE TO SIGN TO GET THIS? I dont need no stinkin’ ‘waiver’ to get mine.


67 posted on 05/11/2011 7:36:50 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If you believe this document has layers due to scanning process and OCR then you are FALLING FOR THE LIES

If you believe that, then PROVE IT. Take this BC, print it, then re-scan it and see if you get the same layers (or ANYTHING REMOTELY SIMILAR)

Computers do not do things radomly.

I write software for a living- including imaging software- and I am 100% convinced this is NOT A SCAN of any individual document, but a manufactured image from multiple scans.

The is both MONOCHROME layers and GREYSCALE (color) layers- this is not possible with one scan.

The Donald also proved that this ‘press release’ in the newspapers did not come from either hospital.

This hospital has no records of his mom “Stanley” being there.

THIS SMELLS EVEN WORSE THAN THE ORIGINAL COLB


68 posted on 05/11/2011 7:43:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: ml/nj
I think you have to ask why anyone would write a program to do this either.

No one would write a program with the intent of doing this either. Machine-driven processes are inherently imperfect. If a program is attempting to differentiate text from non-text, for example, there may be stray pieces of text that the program is unable to recognize as text.

69 posted on 05/11/2011 7:43:56 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
"Why would a person creating a fake document break up words like that? "

Some parts of this are obviously a scanned image. The person who faked this did not start with a blank slate.

But the layers are editted and added- from DIFFERENT IMAGES

70 posted on 05/11/2011 7:49:34 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Executive Summary Re NBC Defined in Constitution Plus 4 SCOTUS Cases

I don't think you understand. I am not the problem. I do know what natural-born meant when the Constitution was drafted. But there are lots of people who do not know, and never will know. But most of them understand fraud. Fraud's the thing, wherein we dissolve the rule of the King. (Sorry Will.)

ML/NJ

71 posted on 05/11/2011 7:56:14 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Machine-driven processes are inherently imperfect.

Only if you start out with that premise. Any business that writes document software of the sort Adobe does with the intent of as perfect a reproduction as possible given the limitations of digital reproduction isn't going to settle for a program that mish-mashes the original just because the first person they gave the job to didn't know what he was doing.

Try playing chess against a $60 software package sometime. We humans are much more imperfect in many ways than our machines.

ML/NJ

72 posted on 05/11/2011 8:04:38 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: saltus; philman_36; MagnoliaB

That’s rich saltus, doesn’t WND / Farah offer most all of their content for free?! Send your money wherever you think best.

There are several self-deluded FR posters who think the are the scientific thought-police. Usually they are puffed up with vain pride in mankind’s accomplishments w/o any thought nor reverence to God’s.

Besides the easiest way to be brain-washed is to only listen to one-side of an argument - over and over and over again.

Saltus, have you ever truly investigated the arguments for creation? See:
Center for Scientific Creation
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html

AND do let us know all that has been dis-proven.


73 posted on 05/11/2011 8:30:46 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: ml/nj

There are certain things machines do well. Performing many calculations very quickly is one, and is why computers are so good as playing chess. Distinguishing text from non-text, in context, is not. OCR technology is pretty good, and getting better, but it’s not perfect.

I deal with OCR’d documents every day (I’m an attorney, a number of my clients have scanned many of their contracts and saved them as PDFs). While the technology works pretty well, if I need to find particular language in a contract, a search of OCR’d text is no substitute for a pair of human eyes on the document.


74 posted on 05/11/2011 8:31:29 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Josephat; cruise_missile

And it’s the best way to get him out of office - since all he has appointed have to go with him and the virtual governmental shutdown of overturning all the he has ‘accomplished’


75 posted on 05/11/2011 8:35:44 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: saltus
Typical strategy from leftist playbook: "If you can't argue the facts, attack the person." So predictable!!!
76 posted on 05/11/2011 8:43:51 AM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I understand the long form has some seeming inexplicable (and some explicable) characters in various layers, but it is not an independent example of a paper document scanned into a pdf file and automatically creating the layers with a similar pattern of “random” characters. I need someone to credibly create such a scan.


77 posted on 05/11/2011 9:04:07 AM PDT by Marylander (!)
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To: palmer

I recommend Denninger’s youtube on the chromatic aberrations and layers. I think he has 4 short videos out.

He explains the problems with the White House PDF better there than can easily be done in a static FR post.

Best,

3


78 posted on 05/11/2011 9:23:45 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: ml/nj
There seems to be a difference in pixelation (resolution).
The top signature seems to have more pixels in it.
Is that the problem?

The problem I see is that the dems have marched out their “experts” and have said this is the real deal.

Forgeries take years in the courts. Years!

My opinion. It is fake. But Joe six pack is not going to understand this. Joe six-pack understands $5/gallon gas.

79 posted on 05/11/2011 10:16:27 AM PDT by cruise_missile (Palin: More woman than Michelle. More man than Barack.)
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To: Triple
Here is my proposal...
Well you just want ice water in hell, don't you. {;^)
80 posted on 05/11/2011 10:19:34 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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