Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth Issued by Hawaiian Health Agency, Not Hospital

The Daily Pen ^ | Tuesday, May 3, 2011 | Dan Crosby

[Hotlanta Mike]

Despite propaganda generated to convince American voters that Obama is a natural-born citizen, the recently released document lauded by handlers and information manipulators remains unvettable due to its municipal origins, vanquished by the absence of an original 1961, Hospital generated “Certificate of Live Birth” which all Natural born presidential candidates would possess…all except one.

[Hotlanta Mike]

It should be understood by all Americans that, regardless of its authenticity, the form document containing the recently released “Certificate of Live Birth” image, claimed by Obama to prove he was born in a Hawaiian hospital, was not provided by the originating source of his attested birthing witnesses from any hospital. Instead, the information and form of this particular publication were generated by the same agency which previously created the fraudulent, independently published Hawaiian “Certification of Live Birth” in 2008.

[Vendome]

Yes, and by playing chicken he cost Lieutenant Lakin his career.

It may have been enough to convince Lieutenant Lakin to continue following orders of deployment as he had done so many times, honorably, as a decorated veteran would do and does.

But no... He let an honorable man hang in the wind, under a cloud of doubt and ruin his career and life. For What?

This settles nothing and I want to see the one he found among his mother’s belongings when she passed in 1995, as well the one that is sealed in his admissions for kindergarten and preschool.

Barak, if this settles it for you then you screwed a fine man and you should be ashamed!

You have no honor.

[Vendome]

This whole BC thing is a put up.  A "Fairy Tale"!

 

It's a "sleight" of hand and there is no reason to have not put an original copy of his Long Form Birth Certificate out there in the 1st place.

 

But, think of it.  There are three that are known to exist or have existed and he has at least two in his possession:

1. The Birth Certificate that was submitted for his admission into the Hawaiian school system.  The files containing that BC and his records for immunization are sealed by court order on Barak's request.
2. "If" he used an American Passport for travel to Indonesia and Pakistan, when he turned 18, he would have a copy of his birth certificate from that event.
3. He absolutely has a Birth Certificate, in its original black & white format, that "He Found" Among His Mother's belongings, when she passed in 1995.
4. I do wonder if he had to submit another BC when he returned back to the Hawaii school system to re-enter school???

 

Let them claim there is no long form.

 

1st.  They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract.  A COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10 minutes.  That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting at (318)

 

2nd.  Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?

 

3rd.  Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for anything?  Like obtaining a passport.  That one document is better than a drivers license.  It saying to the world you are who is contained in the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational proof of who YOU say you are.  From there the State Department does their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no amendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it clean. 

 

Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce a birth certificate in a few minutes?

 

Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the rest of us have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

• His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”.  That was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s.  So that begins the suspicion of a fraudulent document.
• The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is a scan.  If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
• The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds.  A scan does not make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
• More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth Certificate looks like.

 The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007?

• His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have mysteriously disappeared.
• The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
• Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's belongings upon her death in 1995?   He waxed on wondering about it's signficance in his life and his father in one of his books.  Why not post that one?

 Those were most certainly Birth Certificates and not a COLB. There is no reason to create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something.

 That something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

 

 “I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams of My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

 

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

 

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate found among his mother’s belongings.  Why wouldn’t he just slap that one up, for the entire world to see?

 

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks like.

 

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC.  That was in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected by that “fishy” event.

 

The point of the birth certificate is to uncover this man's past for it's factual existence and not the narrative we have been told.

 

We want to know if he ever traveled, went to school in America, obtained loans, etc in another name or as a foreign student or as a foreigner!!!!

 

That is what we are after at a minimum.

 

Finally, there can be no doubt Barak was in fact born with a divided citizenship.  He proudly admits as much.

 

That means if he were conscripted by draft into the United States Military during a conflict, when he was 18, he could have avoided the draft by simply returning to another country of his citizenship.  We know and he admits he was a citizen of Kenya at the age of 18 so he could have returned with no penalty, to Kenya and not even I would call him a draft dodger if he had under those circumstances.

 

You are wholly one thing or another but not two distinctly different and separate things that conflict with each other's existence.

 

He was born with a divided allegiance and is "Not a Natural Born Citizen".  Might be a citizen but, he ain't a Natural Born Citizen.

[McGruff]

Despite propaganda...

Might as well stop reading right there. The authors agenda is all too transparent.

[Vendome]

That is not the Long Form Birth Certificate(though it may be a COLB).

It is another walk up document. The original COLB was the type you can purchase and receive the same day.

For 3+ years we have heard from everybody, including a protective media, that there is no other document.

That is the only one Hawaii provides.

Well now they have proven that just isn’t so and validated part of Hawaii Statute 318 in the process.

The document Mubarak proffered this week is one you can request and it normally takes 10 days to receive it.

They are “Data Points” and the document “IS NOT” a copy of the original Long Form Birth Certificate.

I want to see the Birth Certificate he found among his mother’s belongings, the one his mother submitted for his entrance into the school system and the one he used to obtain his passport.

He has all three available to him and in his possession.

[DonaldC]

Last time I ordered mine I had to go through the state. Hospitals may or may not keep a record, but I would think going through the state would be the norm, not the exception.

[babygene]

You only have to do one thing to see that it’s a fake...

Look at the PDF file and blow (1000 times) up the area that has the doctor’s signature and the mother’s signature. Note that the pixel size is different. That means they were scanned with different scans, period... Since the signatures attest to the rest of the information on the form, that makes it all invalid.

[Electric Graffiti]

Instead, the information and form of this particular publication were generated by the same agency which previously created the fraudulent, independently published Hawaiian “Certification of Live Birth” in 2008.

No, I think Soetoro and team put the 2008 piece of toilet paper on the web themselves. They may have had a little help from someone in HDOH to later add the Certification number.

This lastest creation is a joint effort of felony fraud between the White House and no doubt the stinkin bed-wetting dope smoking Governor and a number of people at the HDOH.

If Barry was born at Kapio'lani, he would have a LFBC that looked exactly like the Norkdyke's LFBC.

[edge919]

This isn’t a very good objection. The document from the Department of Health is used for official purposes. The hospitals are supposed to report the information to the Health Department and they generate the official birth certificate. Anything the hospital generates would only be a ceremonial document.

Second, the family of the physician who allegedly signed Obama’s shiny new COLB is vouching for his signature and the new director of health in Hawaii is vouching for the authenticity of Obama’s shiny new COLB. Unless someone can get these people in court to testify under oath, there’s not much that can be done to contest the authenticity of the shiny new COLB or the information contained therein.

[Williams]

The officer who took the absurd position that he personally could defy the president’s orders deserves zero defending. Makes me sick to see people going on about how Obama is at fault for this guy’s clearly illegal actions.

[Texas Fossil]

Fake! Yes it is.

Bump

[sometime lurker]

Last time I ordered mine I had to go through the state. Hospitals may or may not keep a record, but I would think going through the state would be the norm, not the exception.

Correct. The US State Department wants your state birth certificate for a passport, rather than a hospital certificate. Not sure, but I'd expect that the state certificate would have more precautions against counterfeiting than a hospital would normally achieve. Some of the hospital certificates are made to be more like mementos than official documents.

[Balata]

There are three that are known to exist or have existed...

You are missing at least one more. Remember the blank page in the Divorce records where the BC was suppose to be? Perhaps that one is floating around somewhere.

[Kleon]

How long before Joe Farah puts up "Where's the Certificate of Live Birth containing the signature of the Deputy Registrar of the State of Hawaii (not a local Registrar), and the name of an attending birthing physician with accompanying information about medical metrics of the birth?" billboards?

It's hilarious watching birthers moving the goalposts again, because it's becoming painfully obvious nothing will ever satisfy them.

[MeganC]

Meanwhile, elsewhere on Free Republic there’s people complaining that illegal aliens can cross our borders and have kids and those kids are, according to the courts, natural born citizens under the 14th Amendment. So if the child of two illegal aliens is qualified to be President then so is Obama.

Now, can we PLEASE move on to getting a conservative elected next year?

[wintertime]

Fact:
It is a simple matter to prove one’s natural born citizenship. It is simple to do so in a clear, unambiguous, straight forward, certifiable, and **prompt** manner. Ordinary Americans do it routinely for many reasons.

Fact:
Obama has NEVER proven his natural born citizenship. He still hasn't.

[philman_36]

It's hilarious watching birthers moving the goalposts again...
My goalpost never moved. His father wasn't even a US citizen. He's not a natural born citizen.

...because it's becoming painfully obvious nothing will ever satisfy them.
I'll be satisfied when Congress gets off of their collective backsides and conduct a real investigation.

For you to be satisfied does the subject simply need to be dropped?

[wintertime]

It's hilarious watching birthers moving the goalposts again, because it's becoming painfully obvious nothing will ever satisfy them.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Fact: It is a simple matter to prove one’s natural born citizenship.

Fact: It is a simple matter to do so in a clear, certifiable, unambiguous, and **PROMPT** manner.

Fact: Ordinary Americans prove their natural born citizenship routinely for many reasons.

Fact: Obama has NEVER done any of the above. He still hasn't.

Fact: What Obama has posted is has the legal weight and authority of a piece of chicken poop.

[curiosity]

This is incredibly stupid. Hospitals don't issue birth certificates. State registrars do. In the case of Hawaii, the State Registrar is part of the Department of Health.

The document the hospital gives new parents is just a souvenir with no legal weight or evidenciary value.

[wintertime]

As a conservative why are you alienating the Article 2, Section 1 defenders?

Without their support and hard work there would have been no conservative gains in 2010 elections.