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Are the Officials in Hawaii Nervous Yet? Associated Press Disseminates Misinformation - Again!
Post & Email ^ | April 24, 2011 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 04/24/2011 1:08:43 PM PDT by Red Steel

An article by the Associated Press published at The Drudge Report on April 23, 2011, states that “accessing some Obama birth info is easy” and repeats the false information that a “Certification of Live Birth” is “the only type of birth certificate the state issues.”

Just last week, reader and contributor Miki Booth had reported to The Post & Email that Hawaii State Senator Sam Slom “is well aware of the shenanigans going on at the Department of Health, and that he found out just today or yesterday that somebody received a long-form copy.  He said that they’re just “messing around” and are being very selective.”

Slom has expressed his own questions about why Obama would “spend millions of dollars” hiding his school records, public service records, and his original birth certificate from the American people.

Last month, a requester had obtained a copy of her daughter’s original Certificate of Live Birth from the Hawaii Department of Health without incident.  Reader and writer Miki Booth, whose husband and son were born in Hawaii, explained the differences between the “short-form” and “long-form” birth records to her  U.S. senator here.  As previously reported by The Post & Email, her son’s long-form birth certificate contains fields for such items as “the signature of the attending physician or midwife” and “Date received by local registrar.”  It also contains the signatures of both parents, their birthplaces, and address.

The “basic information about his [Obama's] birth” to which the writer of the AP article, Mark Niesse, refers, is called index data, which the  Hawaii Department of Health describes as “name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize…”

Although it is true that Obama’s name appears in the 1960-64

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; flopsweat; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Red Steel

Good article! Looks like there may be some investigations soon if we keep pushing for them in the other forums.


41 posted on 04/24/2011 4:57:30 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: CommieCutter
you won’t change the mind of the person you’re debating, but you might sway the person who is watching. There’s more people reading these than you realize.

Exactly!

42 posted on 04/24/2011 4:58:47 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: Spaulding

Bookmarking an excellent reference.


43 posted on 04/24/2011 5:02:12 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Newt Gingrich, he would rather sit on a couch with Nancy Pelosi, than stand with Sarah Palin.)
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To: Red Steel

The stories they tell over there among the Hawaiian officials are so contradictory that half of them HAVE to be lies.

They are breaking their own laws right and left. NO ONE in the Obama Media says a thing.


44 posted on 04/24/2011 5:06:18 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: CommieCutter
"The Obama birth certificate issue is now the number one discussion topic at Amazon.com forums."

That must be a sight to see the liberals trying to play catch-up within the debate.

I haven't actually poked my head in there to see the fireworks, but I imagine that there's plenty going on.

I was hanging out on the Jackie Evancho forum at Amazon, and someone there moaned about the fact that the "Birther" forum had knocked Jackie's off the number one position.

I get enough arguments from conservatives over the bc issue. Don't know that I want to mud wrestle with libs over it .. LOL

45 posted on 04/24/2011 5:06:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cycle of discernment
When you get right down to it, you need to get out of the legalese mumbo jumbo about natural born etc, we are talking straight up federal document forgery and manipulation.

Ah, but you see, Obama himself didn't post the alleged COLB to the internet, nor has he ever claimed in public that it's his.

He's very cleverly maintained near total silence on the issue, as far as making any personal statements. His press drone, Gibbs, went on record as having been the one that posted the (fake) COLB on the internet, but Obama has kept his hands far away from anything concerning this subject.

So, if the issue of document forgery ever makes it to federal court, guess who's NOT going to be charged with that crime?

46 posted on 04/24/2011 5:13:18 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I just went over to Amazon to see that. Wow, the place is going nuts, both sides. I am entranced by the arguments on the left. They are 100% “You Birthers are Fools” and “George Bush was worse”. That’s all they’ve got. NONE of them attack on the merits of the case (of his unknown past or documentation), except possibly to state that he did put his BC online.

How can that side be “winning”? They have nothing but Alinsky tactics. Man, as much as I despise that Alinsky, he had a point. People would rather be boiled in oil (see Our Economy) than be made fun of or mocked. And we are KNOWN for being the most bold and self-secure populace in the world???


47 posted on 04/24/2011 5:21:27 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: nesnah

WOW!!! Everyone read Nesnah’s post!!!


48 posted on 04/24/2011 5:22:57 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: nesnah

Thanks for the first- (or second-) hand report.

I’ve noticed that the left uses Fukino’s opinion as proof positive of Obama’s NBC status. As if she were in position to make that determination. At best she could say she’s seen his records.

I’ve wondered how she got the job, because those same folks who put so much stock in her opinion (and that’s all it was), also point out that she was a Republican appointee. I’ve assumed that Lingle didn’t have a particularly deep R bench to work with in HI. And who would ever have imagined the position would come to have such national significance?


49 posted on 04/24/2011 5:34:22 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Yaelle
I just went over to Amazon to see that. Wow, the place is going nuts, both sides. I am entranced by the arguments on the left. They are 100% “You Birthers are Fools” and “George Bush was worse”. That’s all they’ve got. NONE of them attack on the merits of the case

Interesting. The bc brigade of Free Republic would demolish the leftoids posting at Amazon, if they decided to call a general quarters Freep.

Anyone with an Amazon account who has made a purchase from them can post there. Now that this is all blowing up so huge, maybe it's time to Freep the Amazon bc forum.

50 posted on 04/24/2011 5:40:52 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

(From what I have heard about the Kennedy men, it could have been the same one each time... They were not known for pleasing their conquests)

(And just how dark was it in that room, or was she still wearing her Hollywood night mask?)


51 posted on 04/24/2011 5:54:05 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Spaulding
Great response, Spaulding. I lifted the whole thing (including attribution) and posted it in response to Mr Rogers (anti-birther) on the "Natural Born Citizens" thread here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2709683/posts?page=171#171

52 posted on 04/24/2011 5:54:18 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
I get enough arguments from conservatives over the bc issue. Don't know that I want to mud wrestle with libs over it .. LOL

Yeah I agree--when it comes to this particular subject. I really didn't want to get into it at length with the guy. I said a few crucial things, made my peace, saw that he replied, so I let it go--then over a week later he replied two more times. Then it was on. It was really eating at him for some reason that he had to keep commenting..

From what I've seen so far the libs are not as good as defending the BC issue as some of the members of the FR are. There's been three years of battles on here while the liberals have buried their heads in the sand.

53 posted on 04/24/2011 5:56:34 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Scanian

Holy CRAP. I never heard that quote before.

And I believe that was the consensus of the very corrupt US Senate. They do so much riding dirty that I don’t think they remember what decency WAS.


54 posted on 04/24/2011 5:57:02 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: CommieCutter
From what I've seen so far the libs are not as good as defending the BC issue as some of the members of the FR are. There's been three years of battles on here while the liberals have buried their heads in the sand.

While we've been reading history, studying the Constitution and various Supreme Court rulings and scholarly articles, they've been sitting around waiting for their pie.

No wonder all they have are ad hominem attacks to defend Barry with. They're hopelessly out-gunned on this issue. We can take 'em anytime we decide to mount an offensive.

55 posted on 04/24/2011 6:36:56 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

It is !! I was there looking for the book yesterday to see where it was on the best sellers list. OMG I read some of the forum threads..........some of those people involved in the threads really need educated but then again, ya cant educate those that are stuck on the notion of ignorance is bliss. Sigh.


56 posted on 04/24/2011 7:08:15 PM PDT by simplesimon (My Labs walk all over me.)
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To: Windflier

I truly believe the reason I was provoked (days later) was to get information, because he was curious. Or he probably did a little google research, then decided to have a go for round two.

I’ve read a lot of exchanges in more politically balanced forums and the liberals are getting thrashed.

The one thing I’ve noticed with the liberal defenders: they always seem to run back to the Certification of Live Birth at some point. That’s the mark of lack of preparation when it comes to this debate.


57 posted on 04/24/2011 7:23:14 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: tumblindice

In 1960-61, blacks were not called African -American, but Negros. I would say that the Obama so called birth certificate is fairly recent.


58 posted on 04/24/2011 8:06:47 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Yaelle; Squeeky

“WOW!!! Everyone read Nesnah’s post!!!””

Which post??

And listen, if you want heads to explode over on Amazon, put this link up, or otherwise direct them to this post.

Hehehe - it shows that the Index Data book with obama’s entry is the only book without the official date range on the pages. My researcher took pics back last July for me.
Have a quick peek at the pictures.

http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2011/03/06/its-a-date


59 posted on 04/24/2011 8:51:15 PM PDT by Ladysforest
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To: simplesimon
...some of those people involved in the threads really need educated but then again, ya cant educate those that are stuck on the notion of ignorance is bliss. Sigh.

Oh, they can be educated, if by nothing more than repetition.

If they read the facts enough times, they'll start to understand what's being said. Their next step will be to question that data, and demand that we back it up. When we do that enough times, they'll begin to understand that supporting evidence too.

We know that our information is rock-solid, and that the logical conclusions are inescapable. The Obama Kool-Aid drinkers have nothing but the forged COLB, hearsay evidence, and sheer faith to stand on. None of that can withstand a full assault of truth.

60 posted on 04/24/2011 8:57:15 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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