Obama in 1980 said he was born in Mombasa, Kenya

thepostemail.com ^ | Dec. 3, 2009 | John Charlton

[cycle of discernment]

"He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, “I was born there.”

In the light of what is called “The Birther” movement, these memories are still foremost in my mind concerning this. While I cannot swear it was Barak Obama, all the details I do remember of that chance encounter fit the profile of the man who some people claim is born in Kenya and others claim he was born in Hawaii .

The man I met was about 18, thin, Mulatto, told me he was born in Mombassa, raised overseas, was living in Hawaii and hadn’t yet been to many places in the world outside of those places, mostly, hadn’t been to the mainland of America for any long time period if at all. And he openly told me he wanted to be President.

And I remember that face, the face of a young man who sat on a table to my right front, his hands resting on the edge of the table, him leaning forward, his smile, all teeth. It was Barak Obama. I don’t know if I’d bet my life on it, but I am willing to tell people openly at the risk of my ridicule. I was there, and saw him, spoke to him, and he openly told me he was born in Mombassa, Kenya, not Hawaii."

[representativerepublic]

I just tried a search several times, but does any one have a link to the video of the Ill. Senate debate b/t Obama and Keyes where Keyes says something to the effect “you were not even born here in America” and Obama’s answer was “so what” ?

[melancholy]

Now don’t get me wrong I would like to see his Long Form, but I think his college records are 1000% more important because they could open a can of worms that shows deceptive behavior of an adult.

I am a Colleger first, Birther Second.

Welcome aboard. ;)

I want the ORIGINAL education records published to collapse the MSM’s made-up myth of a brilliant messiah, etc. It will also prove that he is actually the highest-ranking illegal alien in the US!

That will peel this rotten onion, ghost of a POTUS thing who resides on what he made to be a BathHouse.

The Ghoster

[Smokeyblue]

I’ve never seen the story in your post before. Interesting.

That makes four accounts of a young Obama with references to being President.

RaceBannon’s account.
Your friend’s account.
The mailman’s account.
Tom Fife’s account.

Did Ayers Help Obama Get Into Harvard?
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By Jack Cashill

http://comments.americanthinker.com/read/42323/426138/page-2.html

From the comment section:

“I was Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Ayers mailman in Glen Ellyn IL. in most of the eighties into the 1990’s . At that time they lived at 199 Montclair Av. I was also Tim Ayers classmate at Glenbard high school. Mrs. Ayers was a great source of information whether it was her sons or that young blackman from Kenya that she just bubbled over with great enthusiasm that they were helping out. According to the late Mrs. Ayers they were also trying to get Bernadine Dorne into the New York Bar Assoc. Thomas Ayers political influences were everywhere not just in Chicago. Not only did I meet Bernadine at the Ayers home ( she lived there for a short time ) but a very young man who introduced himself as Barak Obama who had come out from Chicago on the train that morning to thank Mr. Ayers for his help in his schooling ( Columbia ? ). We had a short conversation about how nice Mr. and Mrs. Ayers are and that he ( Obama ) is going to be president of the Unitet States. Yes, he did say that! This was in the mid 1980’s if my memory is right about the time line. Mr. Ayers is about 95 or 96 and living with his son Bill in Chicago according to son Tim whom I had a political argument with at our class reunion two years ago. The whole family is Marxist!”

[broken_arrow1]

Doesn’t matter where he was born, he’s a f-ing communist!

[melancholy]

I read Race’s original account of this meeting. He is a FReeper in good standing and of high regard. I have no reason to doubt him.

Ditto!

I'll take a Former Marine's word against anything put out by this Soros-controlled Communist regime and media figure-headed by the highest-ranking illegal alien POTUS in the BathHouse!

[little jeremiah]

That thread was what came up when I did a search on Race Bannon’s name to find out if he had posted recently; the thread showed him making comments as of April 20. It wasn’t the content that was significant, just showing that he’s still around, since some people were wondering.

[GregNH]

Thanx, but it seems odd that an entire thread would be pulled with at least 59 comments at the request of the threads originator....hmmmm

[little jeremiah]

Thanks for posting that. I had totally forgotten about the mailman’s account.

[little jeremiah]

I’ve read over the last two/three years about three freepers accounts of seeing that, but darn it - I never kept track of their names. It was apparently on the live CNN debate but sort of in between the official parts, according to one or two of those who saw it.

The only way I can think of to find it is to do a vanity.

One had taped the live CNN debate and viewed it, but when CNN played it later, that part was gone. I think it was CNN. Keyes claims he doesn’t remember that part. He doesn’t say it didn’t happen, but he can’t remember. Either he really doesn’t remember, or someone told him not to remember it.

[EternalVigilance]

One had taped the live CNN debate and viewed it, but when CNN played it later, that part was gone. I think it was CNN. Keyes claims he doesn’t remember that part. He doesn’t say it didn’t happen, but he can’t remember. Either he really doesn’t remember, or someone told him not to remember it.

Total nonsense. It simply never happened, according to Keyes, his staff, his supporters, his archivists, everybody. Folks who saw every second of every encounter. And none of what these internet wags say about this is backed up with a second of video. The whole thing is the product of fertile imaginations and nothing else. Please don't help keep this alive. It does no one any good whatsoever.

[little jeremiah]

I don’t even remember the topic of the thread; it was just the most recent post RB had made, since people were wondering if he’d been on FR lately.

[little jeremiah]

Okay. I didn’t see it, but three freepers claimed they did. I have no idea.

I do know that Justice Clarence Thomas said that they’re evading this issue. And the Canada Free Press artlce or more than one, has stated that media people have been threatened. So, just saying.

Until the truth about Zero is laid out, we don’t know about a lot of things.

[EternalVigilance]

Well, I can’t prove a negative.

But, the burden of proof is on those making the claim, not on me anyway. And so far, after years of this floating around the web and periodically resurfacing, not a single one of them has been able to back up their “memory” with a speck of proof of any kind whatsoever.

Dr. Keyes has a federal suit which is now in the Ninth Circuit. He’s been Obama’s implacable nemesis for seven years now. The idea that he would cover up something like this is absolutely ludicrous.

And, by the way, the “source” at the top of this thread is completely unreliable and untrustworthy. They’re worse than “Debka Files.” Anyone who pays them any mind is being foolish.

[little jeremiah]

I have no desire to argue; and I’m sure Alan Keyes would never cover anything up. It’s just that no one is perfect. And some people may have been threatened, and/or biding their time with every card they possess. You are 100% that was never said, and I’m fine with that. I just don’t know for sure, but I certainly will stop here.

And what source are you saying is unreliable? Charleton, the Postemail site, individuals’ recollections of Zero saying he was born in Kenya?

[Aliska]

Whatever I said, I didn't intend to smear him, just hold the accounts up to rigorous standards. Some crossed that line; others vouched for him. My point is that if he is telling it exactly as he experienced it, there is no proof that it was actually Obama. Without reading those accounts again, a name would lend it a little more credence, and maybe there was one, but still wouldn't prove it was indeed the current president without more actual evidence which there apparently was not.

I would never put Race Bannon on a par with that other person; he looked like a good-looking, decent fellow in the picture. It's like the guy standing in line behind me in a convenience store years ago, don't know how on earth it came up, but he asked me if I'd heard about My Lai. I replied in the affirmative, and her responded that he was the one who pulled the trigger. So I tell my story all these years later, am not making it up, people don't know that, maybe I misunderstood, but my point is from that brief interchange, there is no proof linking that stranger to My Lai. If I'd gotten his name and gone off to do a whole lot of research, getting names of family and people who knew him, rereading news accounts, writing the Army, how far do you think I would have gotten with it?

Assuming I am telling the truth, which only I know, been here a long time, too, and people might do well to question me politely, my memory of it, without smearing me, would you believe that stranger was actually the shooter? Would you believe that I am recalling the incident correctly? Would it hold up in any court?

I thought that stranger might be crackpot. But I suppose there is a slim chance he was somehow telling the truth. What are people supposed to think when a stranger comes up with a startling narrative? FWIW I thought there were more than one shooters at that incident, I don't remember, remember Lt. Calley allegedly ordered it, and that the incident itself was real.

[Amigo04]

So who’s your friend that’s claiming this? Is there an article from a respected source? So where’s the link to support your claim?

[EternalVigilance]

Don’t know the individual, but the site is NOT reliable.

Shoot, look at the story we’re commenting on. Some vague tale from some guy about some encounter with some guy that he can’t swear was Obama.

Surely we can do far better than that. Sheesh. Even the Left media’s standards are higher than that.

[little jeremiah]

Sigh. Race Bannon is a trustworthy and honorable man and there are so many accounts from the past - tons of them - and they cannot all be discounted.

I’d prefer to discuss the unreliability of Zero’s myth, as on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=818

But have it your way.

(Courtesy ping to RB, sorry, just want to be polite.)

[Brown Deer]

So who’s your friend that’s claiming this?

None of your business.

[Amigo04]

“It’s interesting, anecdotal, but doesn’t really prove anything. My personal opinion about both of your encounters is that since you didn’t know the true identity of the person at the time or any evidence linking you with him specifically, it doesn’t prove anything.”

Sound Familiar? It should, that’s exactly what you said about someones post about a supposed encounter with Ocrapper. We have no reason to believe your story or claim unless you can prove it!