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Trump, Abercrombie spar over "birther" issue
Hawaii News Now ^ | 04/19/2011 | Brooks Baehr

Posted on 04/19/2011 11:50:18 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

There is evidence to refute the claim that President Barack Obama was not born in Hawaii, and therefore is not eligible to be president of the United States, but "birthers" persist with their claims that Obama is in office illegally. Donald Trump is the latest to question the president's birthplace.

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As for Obama's roots in Hawaii, Abercrombie told Hawaii News Now he first laid eyes on baby Barack Obama a few days after he was born. Abercrombie said Obama's parents introduced their newborn to friends at the University of Hawaii where Abercrombie was going to college with the president's father.

"We not only saw him and were with them, but were introduced to him of course at our gatherings, our student gatherings. And of course over the years then as he was raised by his mother and his grandparents we of course saw him frequently because he was with his grandfather all the time," Abercrombie added.

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KEYWORDS: abercrombie; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; donaldtrump; hawaii; hi; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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To: Smokeyblue

Does anyone know if Obama Sr. and his Kenyan wife had a baby around that time? I guess Sr. came over to the US some time in ‘59 but I don’t know if he went back between then and ‘61.


61 posted on 04/20/2011 5:48:11 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: Smokeyblue

Oh what a tangled web we weave...


62 posted on 04/20/2011 5:52:53 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Fresh Wind; Smokeyblue; All

63 posted on 04/20/2011 5:54:06 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Smokeyblue

Abercrummy must have seen him pretty quick because 15 days after his birth BHO was in Seattle WA.


64 posted on 04/20/2011 6:54:30 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Evidence??? Why not proof??? Show the bona fides Barack!!!


65 posted on 04/20/2011 7:24:19 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I want proof that Barack Obama will be defeated by November ‘12, if not sooner.


Not possible...the two largest firms that supply the electronic voting machines in US elections is owned by a foreign entity. Those who count the votes win the elections!!!


66 posted on 04/20/2011 7:27:42 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Tempest
What is Obama so afraid of?

The truth.

It's more damaging than navigating through whatever he has to put up with in order to keep it hidden.

67 posted on 04/20/2011 7:30:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Semper Vigilantis

The issue isn’t eligibility but criminal fraud. Where he was born is relevant to that. No one is going to act on the son-of-a-British-subject aspect of this issue.


68 posted on 04/20/2011 7:50:21 AM PDT by edge919
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To: John Valentine
The usurper was not a Natural Born Citizen when he was born and he is not one now. Regardless of where he was born. He could have been born in the White House and it would not have made any difference.

That's not spelled out in the Constitution. It's an obscure legal theory which would require a Supreme Court decision to resolve. It's never come up, and given the precedent of the 2008 election, if it ever does, expect it to turn out the same way: natural born == citizen by birth. Had Obama hidden his parentage, it might be different. But, far from hiding the fact, he wrote passed off as his own work a ghost-written autobiography on the topic and made a nice pile of royalties, which are still rolling in. Indeed, that book and the legend it created is the reason we heard about the guy in the first place.

To hope to oust Obama via the courts is an exercise in futility. Going forward, the best hope would be a new amendment, the primary purpose of which would be solve the anchor baby problem. If such an amendment were properly written, it might also work in an unambiguous definition of natural born.

69 posted on 04/20/2011 8:42:41 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Georgia Girl 2

If not sooner.


70 posted on 04/20/2011 9:34:04 AM PDT by edge919
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To: cynwoody
That's not spelled out in the Constitution.

Actually it is. The Constitution was established by "we the people of the United States" for "ourselves and our posterity." IOW, those who formed the Constitution were the original citizens and their children were the country's natural born citizens. The country was not established for ourselves and "whoever was visiting and happened to pop a baby on U.S. soil."

71 posted on 04/20/2011 9:37:22 AM PDT by edge919
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72 posted on 04/20/2011 9:57:48 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Smokeyblue; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge; ...
Thanks....for posting this,.

Related thread:

BOOK TO REVEAL OBAMA'S 'TRUE' IDENTITY?

73 posted on 04/20/2011 11:34:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: gleeaikin
He was born here not in Africa or somewhere.

I still suspect he was born in Canada. The HI Department of Health stated that he was a "natural born" American. (NOT a "natural born" U.S. Citizen)

If he were born in Canada, Mexico, Brazil, etc he would in fact be a "natural born" American (Legal Weasel Words)

74 posted on 04/20/2011 11:43:12 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Smokeyblue



'MISSING RECORDS IN HAWAII, MISSING RECORDS IN KENYA, MISSING RECORDS IN INDONESIA'...



BOOK TO REVEAL OBAMA'S TRUE IDENTITY?

75 posted on 04/20/2011 12:01:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Smokeyblue

Abercrombie..You’re a TWIT!! If you were such a follower why didn’t you “come out” when the birther issue started and stand faithfully by Ocrapo’s side? “Trump has a political agenda”...yeah and that’s to get to the bottom of this mound of sh*t that little baby you claim to have laid eyes on has created for our country...AND what’s more...What’s your ‘agenda’ with challenging The Trumpmeister? Is it to gain political standing with the First Nazi Family of the US? Go twiddle your thumbs and twirl your lei on a sandy beach somewhere and SHUT UP!


76 posted on 04/20/2011 12:56:40 PM PDT by Amigo04
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To: Red Steel

Hmmm, a cab driver. Thanks.


77 posted on 04/20/2011 2:27:50 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Smokeyblue

HawaiianBirthCert-2.jpg

...and a donation to Free Republic, of course.

78 posted on 04/20/2011 4:31:38 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM: The Liberal solution to every societal problem... Other People's Money.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest.


79 posted on 04/20/2011 8:25:07 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Smokeyblue

As for Obama’s roots in Hawaii, Abercrombie told Hawaii News Now he first laid eyes on baby Barack Obama a few days after he was born. Abercrombie said Obama’s parents introduced their newborn to friends at the University of Hawaii where Abercrombie was going to college with the president’s father.

“We not only saw him and were with them, but were introduced to him of course at our gatherings, our student gatherings. And of course over the years then as he was raised by his mother and his grandparents we of course saw him frequently because he was with his grandfather all the time,” Abercrombie added.
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of course theres photos of the new baby Barry ???

Lots of them ???

at least one with Uncle Neil holding the baby in his arms ???

and Stan Ann and Barak Obama on either side ???

in front of the UH sign ???

NO ???

get outa here

there must be...

such a momentous occasion or 2


80 posted on 04/20/2011 11:17:47 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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