Posted on 04/09/2011 3:03:35 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
WHY THE POLITICAL RULING CLASS NO LONGER LISTENS TO US!
Among others, Mr. Jefferson warned that the financial disaster we now face would be but one of many problems paper money would visit upon us if we allowed our leaders to remove the backing from the currency, to wit: When the servants if the people are paid with something other than that which the people themselves have produced (i.e. the real, tangible products of their labors or some fixed and real medium of that exchange), the roles of master and servant will be reversed.
It was believed by Roger Sherman and a majority of those at the Constitutional Convention that un-backed currency would so damage the fabric of the nation that they ATTEMPTED to prohibit it with these few words at Article 1, Section 10, requiring the states to enforce the prohibition: No State shall make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;
If the people and their states grew inattentive to this matter (and they have!), Jefferson also saw this problem ahead:
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered"
This is now where we find ourselves. If the government, through its banker masters at the Federal Reserve, can create money from thin air, they certainly dont need ours every April 15th. That annual sheep shearing is simply an attempt to vacuum enough of the excess paper from the system to keep the rest of us from catching on to the biggest theft ring in the history of man. They have now created so much that their attempt is failing and failing badly to a point where all but the dullest among us (Obama voters and his growing cadres of personal and corporate welfare beneficiaries) are starting to get it.
If you understood that last paragraph, you can now make the small leap to an understanding as to why the progressive utopian welfare state hacks in Washington dont give a damn WHAT you think. Their power to create all the money they need to fuel their infernal machine and fill the gaping maws of enough of those hoards of welfare constituents to assure their perpetual re-election means that they ready? NO LONGER NEED YOU! They have become, as Mr. Jefferson predicted, our MASTERS.
That they are taking down a nation and a system that has provided more wealth, safety and abundance to more people than any other in history matters not to them. Failing to grasp the lesson of the French Revolution, they believe themselves to be above the impending disaster.
Were running out of time to get this increasingly rapacious beast back into the cage from which we have carelessly allowed it to escape.
It really HAS come to seem that voting out one group of clowns only guarantees they be replaced with yet another group of essentially like-minded clowns.
I believe we've passed the tipping point, but I live in CA, so you can probably see my pessimism. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
We were never supposed to allow a ‘RULING’ class. That was our first mistake.....but not the last.
The political class no longer listens to us because they are no longer afraid that we’ll engage in armed rebellion. And so far, they’ve been right.
Why did we vote in the last election ? ohh yeah, we were promised and told that the new guys in town work for us, we the people . sarcasm
May 15th is the scary day. I hope it turns out to be like Y2K...nothing.
I have never gone into a public servants office and felt as if I were dealing with my servant. And I’ve been around for over 60 years. Have any FReepers had a different experiance?
We've expended all of our time. Mr Franklin has been proved prescient. We've failed at 'keeping it'.
This is a video that covers the housing collapse AND what your vanity covers. The encroachment of central banks and their harm to a free people through currency debasement.
It can be watched in 30min, or in two 15min segments.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=theamericandreamfilm&annotation_id=annotation_996700&feature=iv
Enjoy and share!
Ahem...Ron Paul??
They have found that we will whine and moan and when all is said and done, they will be re-elected anyway. So they don’t have to listen.
They have judges and bureaucrats in place to do as they wish evem if we voted the bad guys out.
They have judges and bureaucrats in place to do as they wish evem if we voted the bad guys out.
Never forget the power of self-preservation.
Fake quote alert.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp
Didn't sound like Jeff to me, and I was right.
"That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Ruling Class yet, . . . but I do believe it's a-comin'."
SNOPES is PARTIALLY right. Over time, others have embellished his original thoughts and words. Having said that, Mr. Jefferson’s enmity to the banks and paper money IS well known, to wit:
(From the Thomas Jefferson Monticello site at
http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/private-banks-quotation).
The first part of the quotation (”If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered”) has not been found anywhere in Thomas Jefferson’s writings, to Albert Gallatin or otherwise. It is identified in Respectfully Quoted as spurious, and the editor further points out that the words “inflation” and “deflation” are not documented until after Jefferson’s lifetime.[3]
The second part of the quotation (”I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies...”) may well be a paraphrase of a statement Jefferson made in a letter to John Taylor in 1816. He wrote, “And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.”[4]
The third part of this quotation (”The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs”) may be a misquotation of Jefferson’s comment to John Wayles Eppes, “Bank-paper must be suppressed, and the circulating medium must be restored to the nation to whom it belongs.” [5]
SNOPES, owned and operated by a “progressive,” big government man and wife team, have a political and philosophical reason for painting Jefferson as a fellow friend of the paper money and banks (the FED) that make possible the Obama agenda now destroying the nation he helped to found. Don’t be too quick to trust Snopes in political matters.
They ignore us because we ignore them. The vast majority of we the people are perfectly happy to just let the politicals keep on doing their stupid political shit as long as the politicals don’t hamper our chosen lifestyles or tax us too heavily. As long as they leave us mostly alone, we’ll let the politicals save the whales, or the snail darters, or the Planned Parenthood pap smearers, or whatever.
But if the politicals try to take away too many of our guns, or SUVs, or dollars...
Look, it’s fake quote.
Several paraphrases cobbled together and assigned to a long-dead man, complete with quotation marks, is a fake.
I expect Jefferson would have mostly agreed with the sentiments expressed, but we’re not allowed to invent something a dead guy might have said and then claim it’s a quote.
When you do, you’re heading straight into “fake but accurate” territory.
I don’t trust Snopes in political matters, but their research is often quite good. The truth or falsehood, as such, of a statement is not determined by its source. Obviously the source should be taken into consideration, but if Obama says something that is true, it doesn’t cease to be true because he said it.
If you have something resembling proof that Snopes or Wiki are inaccurate in a particular case, cite it. But don’t expect everybody to automatically reject everything they say because of possible bias. We should be skeptical of all claims until they are proven, regardless of source.
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