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Western Hero ^ | 9 April 2011 | Silverfiddle

Posted on 04/09/2011 11:32:03 AM PDT by Silverfiddle


Angry anti-GOP mobs are rampaging across the internet, screaming that this budget deal is the worst betrayal in US history, right up there with Nixon signing the Paris Peace Accords, The Compromise of 1877, and Art Modell's betrayal of the city of Cleveland


We Have Not Yet Begun to Fight

How would these critics of Boehner and the GOP have reacted after the battle of Lexington that began the Revolutionary War?  Would they have gone home in defeat because there were still British left standing?  This is just an early skirmish in a long war to reshape the federal government.  We still have the debt ceiling fight coming up in May.

Republicans wrapped up a deal that takes us through 2011 while cutting $38 billion, and thank God for that.  It folds the tents on this nickle-dime DC circus sideshow (they were arguing over less than 1% in cuts) and clears the field for debate on Paul Ryan's long-term strategy for cutting Trillions from the federal government, and enacting fundamental reforms.

Don't be a Sore Winner
For reasons unfathomable, some on the right are angry with Boehner.  I'd like for someone to explain how a government shutdown would have helped the GOP, who the American people still view with mistrust.  Here is what he and the GOP did, despite Democrat control of the Senate, the White House and the news media:
The history of offers on this bill goes something like this. Democrats first offered no cuts, then $4 billion, then $6.5 billion, then $33 billion, then settled at $38.5 billion.  (Fox News)
The spending cuts amount to $78.5 billion below what Mr. Obama had requested for 2011. (Washington Times)
 "...an estimated $38 billion in reductions — represented the “largest real dollar spending cut in American history.” (NY Times)
With the DC kabuki agitprop out of the way, Paul Ryan can now conduct an adult conversation based upon stark facts.  This is harsh terrain for unserious liberals who rely on the usual freakshow histrionics.  Americans are ready for a serious debate on ending our profigate ways, and the Republicans are the only ones discussing it seriously.

Do you want to reform government spending, or do you just want to burn the damned thing down?

It's a serious question, and if your answer is the latter, you are in the camp of the libertines who turned the French Revolution into a violent rampage that forever knocked that nation off of her powerful and glorious perch.  Such a sentiment also puts you firmly outside the camp of the founding fathers.  They had righteous anger, but they channeled it into constructive projects that built the greatest nation in the history of the world.

By clamoring for a shutdown, we feed into the left's stereotypes that we are a rabble of anarchists with torches and pitchforks clamoring to burn down government.  The broad middle does not respond well to such wild displays.  Ask "Pitchfork Pat" Buchanan, the latest in a long line of failed American populists.

Fiscal conservatives on Capitol Hill need the support of patriotic Americans who follow the example of our original revolutionary patriots.  Screaming libertines and bloody guillotines provide propaganda fodder for the leftwing statists struggling to preserve the status quo, and end up working against government reformers like Paul Ryan and Tom Coburn.

Tea Party Activists Give Boehner Nod of Approval
Lefty Ezra Klein is all Pouty
Fox News - Who Won the Shutdown?
Salon - Boehner Won
WaPo - Boehner Gets $39 Billion, Reid Gets Nothing


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: boehner; budget; clowardpiven; debt; ohio
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1 posted on 04/09/2011 11:32:08 AM PDT by Silverfiddle
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To: Silverfiddle

Congressional Reform Act of 2011

1. Term Limits.

12 years only, one of the possible options below.

A. Two Six-year Senate terms
B. Six Two-year House terms
C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms

2. No Tenure / No Pension.

A Congressman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they are out of office.

3. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people.

4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

6. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

7. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

8. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/11.

The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen made all these contracts for themselves.

Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.


2 posted on 04/09/2011 11:36:33 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: bigheadfred

He’s just here to pimp his blog.


3 posted on 04/09/2011 11:38:00 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: bigheadfred

It did not take the RINO collaborators long to kill the Big Mo the Tea Party gave them in November. Starting with the so called Tax Deal by McConnell and now Boner and his big cave in on the shutdown. Phooey!


4 posted on 04/09/2011 11:40:04 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: USNBandit

s’ok.

I was just reading my e-mail and that was in it.

Threw it into the first thread I saw.


5 posted on 04/09/2011 11:43:29 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: bigheadfred

Someone please explain how the GOP was supposed to get even bigger cuts through, given they need 60 senators and a liberal president to agree with them to make them law.

Also, someone please explain how this shutdown was supposed to advance the cause of fiscal conservatism?

You pick you battles. If you don’t have the numbers, you don’t charge the hill. You nip at the flanks and you snipe them one by one, living to fight another day when you do have superior firepower.

I guess none of you were ever in the military.


6 posted on 04/09/2011 11:45:14 AM PDT by Silverfiddle (Stand With The Heroes, Fight The Zeroes!)
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To: screaminsunshine

ya’ll rilly dinna beeleave anything would change

ssdd

the only thing that will change anything is a bloody revolution


7 posted on 04/09/2011 11:45:58 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: Silverfiddle
This is just an early skirmish in a long war to reshape the federal government

Looks to me like the pubbies blinked!

8 posted on 04/09/2011 11:46:26 AM PDT by evad (SHUT IT DOWN!)
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To: Silverfiddle
This is just an early skirmish in a long war to reshape the federal government. We still have the debt ceiling fight coming up in May.

If your greatest victory is ALWAYS IN THE FUTURE, you never win anything.

They gave up the biggest card they held.

9 posted on 04/09/2011 11:46:29 AM PDT by SteamShovel (The RADIATION PIMPS...are RATS in compassionate clothes.)
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To: USNBandit

My blog doesn’t need “pimped.”

Being a Navy vet you should appreciate the need for a good argument every now and then.


10 posted on 04/09/2011 11:46:40 AM PDT by Silverfiddle (Stand With The Heroes, Fight The Zeroes!)
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To: bigheadfred

They will just continue to print, borrow, spend, and tax. As usual. Fighting over who gets the best split of the Loot.


11 posted on 04/09/2011 11:49:32 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: bigheadfred

A bloody revolution? Who do you shoot first? The cop and his family who lives next door?

Do you open fire on the National Guard armory in town?

Talk of bloody revolution is stupid and reckless and get us where?


12 posted on 04/09/2011 11:49:37 AM PDT by Silverfiddle (Stand With The Heroes, Fight The Zeroes!)
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To: bigheadfred

So, when are you running for Congress?


13 posted on 04/09/2011 11:50:00 AM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Silverfiddle

The problems besetting this country started long ago.

Nothing can fix them now.

They might slow the long slide into hell.

But they ain’t a gonna stop it.


14 posted on 04/09/2011 11:50:57 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

Thanxs for volunteering to be my campaign manager.


15 posted on 04/09/2011 11:52:16 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: Silverfiddle
This is just an early skirmish in a long war to reshape the federal government.

This war has been going on for decades. This battle was not an early skirmish, it was a late battle at a time when our country's very economic existence is at stake. It was time for the "Hail Mary" for Victory, not fighting to not lose.

Blinking by the ones who should hold the line is WHY we are here now.

Blinking again got us nowhere. Blinking again tells the RATS you are not serious about winning. Blinking again tells the RATS they can stretch the field and run out the clock with not real threat from our side.

16 posted on 04/09/2011 11:53:37 AM PDT by SteamShovel (The RADIATION PIMPS...are RATS in compassionate clothes.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks Silverfiddle!


17 posted on 04/09/2011 11:53:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SteamShovel

The next card is the Debt Ceiling. How do you think the screenplay is set up? Will it go down to the wire again? Will Boner cry on TV? Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of...”How the Republic Was Lost”. Starring John Bonerhead and Mitch McConnell.


18 posted on 04/09/2011 11:54:04 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: Silverfiddle
Talk of bloody revolution is stupid and reckless and get us where?

Back to day 1.

19 posted on 04/09/2011 11:55:11 AM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me...Make Me Write Bad Checks)
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To: bigheadfred

Most of the best people for political office stay away from the world of politics, as much as they possibly can, and this is an ongoing problem with worldwide politics. Too many people that end up running for political office have their own agendas, and/or are idiots, and/or are corrupt, and/or love power, and/or are rich, and/or are personal losers,...How can all of this, finally, end, if ever?


20 posted on 04/09/2011 12:00:23 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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