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ATF Whistleblowers to Senator Grassley: "Welcome to the party, pal!"
sipseystreetirregulars ^ | 10 February, 2011 | Mike Vanderboegh

Posted on 02/11/2011 5:26:19 AM PST by marktwain

After the DOJ stonewall letter the other day, ATF agent "Jumper," posting on CleanUpATF.org, wrote this:

Senator Grassley is getting a taste of what it is like trying to seek truth and justice from DOJ and ATF.

Lets pretend that you are not one of the most powerful members of the Senate. Lets pretend that you are not holding the purse strings to the agency you are inquiring about.

Lets pretend that you are a lowly ATF Agent who has been subjected to retaliation, whistleblower reprisals and a hostile work environment. Lets pretend that you are trying to accomplish the same objective - truth and justice - without the oversight and authority of Congress as your influence.

How do you think that Agent fares? If they can stone wall a 20+ year U.S. Senator then the employees of this bureau stand no chance.

Senator Grassley, welcome to our world.

That was then. What a difference a couple of days and a letter makes. When the anonymous source provided David Codrea with Senator Grassley's reply to Eric Holder containing the "Rosetta Stone" documents, the agents whose careers and liberty have been hanging out there, twisting in wind, suddenly found an ally whose determination seems to equal theirs.

I don't know what Eric Holder intended by having his minion write that insulting letter to Grassley, but I rather suspect that he wasn't expecting what he got. Indeed, it reminded me of these lines from Braveheart:

William Wallace: I said I have an offer for you.

Lochlan: You disrespect a banner of truce?

Wallace: From his king? Absolutely. Here are Scotland's terms. Lower your flags, and march straight back to England, stopping at every home you pass by to beg forgiveness for 100 years of theft, rape, and murder. Do that and your men shall live. Do it not, and every one of you will die today.

Cheltham: [laughing] You are outmatched. You have no heavy cavalry. In two centuries no army has won without--.

Wallace: I'm not finished. Before we let you leave, your commander must cross that field, present himself before this army, put his head between his legs, and kiss his own arse.

[Cheltham rides off]

Mornay: I'd say that was rather less cordial than he was used to.

Well, like my Grandpa Vanderboegh used to say, "Son, you don't poke a wolverine with a sharp stick unless your want your balls ripped off."

Senator Grassley just figuratively handed Eric Holder his testicles. With this letter, the Project Gunwalker scandal can no longer be minimized, marginalized or doubted.

It must be dealt with.

Now, what happens is entirely in your hands. Senator Grassley is no angel. When poked, he has come out growling and snapping, but understand that this is just the first round. The White House is now fully aroused to the danger that the Project Gunwalker scandal poses to its agenda. The Great Eye of Mordor turns, and all the dirty tricks of a corrupt system will be used in its defense.

If the system is to work at all, YOU must make it work. I have written about one way you can help, but there are others. We must arrange a venue where we can get these cover-up artists under oath, where non-denial denials do not avail.

You must agitate, you must demand the truth -- from the press and from your Congresscritters. Call the talk shows. Post on the blogs. Get the word out. You must demand from all those who claim to represent American firearm owners -- and here I'm obviously thinking of the NRA, because Larry Pratt and Gun Owners of America have been helping us out with advice and contacts behind the scene since the beginning -- to burn up some of their bragged-about political capital. Use the weapons of truth that the whistleblower agents through the good offices of Senator Grassley have provided you -- the letters and documents -- and spread them far and wide coupled with the demand that both houses of Congress open ATF oversight hearings NOW.

There have not been serious ATF oversight hearings since Orrin Hatch's in 1982. Past time, wouldn't you say, for another?

You cannot sit on the sidelines and watch, expecting justice and truth to come rolling down without effort. You must demand it. You must jump into the fray, swinging.

Welcome to the party, pal.


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; grassley; gunwalker
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It is well past time that ATF be subject to real constitutional oversight.
1 posted on 02/11/2011 5:26:24 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

If you want to see a change in response from the ATF, take away their budget.

I’m willing to bet they just may change their minds.


2 posted on 02/11/2011 5:33:03 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: marktwain

What is “Project Gunwalker”?


3 posted on 02/11/2011 5:36:16 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: marktwain

Anyone have a link to referenced letters to and from Grassley?


4 posted on 02/11/2011 5:37:54 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: GoldenPup

Project Gunwalker was a program the ATFE developed to essentially authorize the movement of a number of US purchased weapons to slide across the border in order to prove there were weapons being smuggled from the US into Mexico. Ostensibly, they were going to monitor the movement of these weapons but they lost accountability. Now it seems that some of these weapons were used in the killing of Border Patrolmen Brian Terry last December.


5 posted on 02/11/2011 5:42:18 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: GoldenPup

In short, the ATF was using FFL’s and strawbuyers to sell guns across into Mexico. Initially, this was to try and close down illicit channels, but then became a political tool to try and push more legislation. A few of these guns have turned up being used in border crime including one recovered that was directly linked to the murder of a US Border Patrol Agent.


6 posted on 02/11/2011 5:48:29 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Joe 6-pack

You type faster than I do. ;-)


7 posted on 02/11/2011 5:49:16 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I think you’re sugar coating it a little. I’d describe it as an agent provocateur program, atf wanted to prove that guns were being smuggled into mexico in some organized way, and the only way to do that was to smuggle them down there themselves. Only they got caught when BPA Terry was murdered with one of their guns.


8 posted on 02/11/2011 5:54:05 AM PST by henry_reardon
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To: Bigh4u2

Interesting, but it’s hard to take an author seriously when they mix trite movie quotes with political commentary.


9 posted on 02/11/2011 5:58:47 AM PST by wbill
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

May be here:

http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/02/empire-strikes-back-doj-issues-denial.html


10 posted on 02/11/2011 5:59:56 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wbill

The go do your own write up. Show us how it’s done.


11 posted on 02/11/2011 6:03:12 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

http://www.jobrelatedstuff.com/core/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1145029&page=1


12 posted on 02/11/2011 6:04:05 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

I believe this is it:

Dear Attorney General Holder:

During our meeting on January 31, I provided you with copies of my recent letters to Acting ATF Director Kenneth E. Melson. I had received serious allegations from ATF whistleblowers. ATF agents told my staff that the agency allowed the sale of assault rifles to known and suspected straw purchasers for an illegal trafficking ring near the southwest border. Authorities allegedly recovered two of those weapons at the scene of a firefight near the southwest border on December 14, 2010. Customs and Border Protection Agent Brian Terry lost his life in that firefight and may have been killed with one of those two rifles. That is why I requested nearly two weeks ago that the ATF brief my staff as soon as possible.

Unfortunately, the reaction to my request has, so far, been little more than delay and denial. I finally received a letter at close of business on Friday, February 4, in response to my request. It came not from the ATF, but from the Justice Department. Inthat letter, the Department categorically denied that the ATF “knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons to a straw purchaser….” The Department said the ATF makes “every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transportation into Mexico.”

Read the rest: http://www.scribd.com/doc/48549160/RosettaStone


13 posted on 02/11/2011 6:06:08 AM PST by Nickname
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To: GoldenPup
Do a keyword search on “gunwalker”. There are numerous articles available.
14 posted on 02/11/2011 6:12:09 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

One can ask Randy Weaver about the damnable ATF


15 posted on 02/11/2011 6:17:43 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: marktwain

The only thing(s) “ATF” should be is three aisles at Wal Mart.


16 posted on 02/11/2011 6:23:57 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: wbill

“Interesting, but it’s hard to take an author seriously when they mix trite movie quotes with political commentary”
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Here’s a “trite” movie quote for ya:

Captain Willard: “Oh man, the bullshit piled up so fast in the Federal Government, you needed wings to stay above it”

Ok Ok, I know that’s not the EXACT quote, but HEY it’s still pretty true!

I like the authors use of movie quotes.


17 posted on 02/11/2011 7:05:20 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: marktwain

What’s even more telling is the complete complicity the media has in protecting the Obama administration from being associated with “Project Gunwalker”.

Searching Google News I got exactly ZERO hits on “Project Gunwalker” from any so-called MainStream Media outlet.

The Democrat cover-up on Project Gunwalker is so far holding quite well.


18 posted on 02/11/2011 7:20:12 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Only two things come from Texas and I see you're wearing an "I Heart Austin" t-shirt)
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To: marktwain
That was then. What a difference a couple of days and a letter makes. When the anonymous source provided David Codrea with Senator Grassley's reply to Eric Holder containing the "Rosetta Stone" documents, the agents whose careers and liberty have been hanging out there, twisting in wind, suddenly found an ally whose determination seems to equal theirs. I don't know what Eric Holder intended by having his minion write that insulting letter to Grassley, but I rather suspect that he wasn't expecting what he got. Indeed, it reminded me of these lines from Braveheart:

What an annoying article. Instead of wasting my time quoting from Braveheart, why don't you tell us: 1. Eric Holder's letter. 2. Grassley's much talked about but actually unmentioned reply. 3. The 'rosetta stone' documents.

19 posted on 02/11/2011 7:27:30 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: sportutegrl; All
Here's Page 1 of the letter from the DOJ to Grassley

And here's Page 2


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

20 posted on 02/11/2011 7:46:21 AM PST by The Comedian (Muslim Brotherhood = A.N.S.W.E.R = Soros = Obama)
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