Posted on 02/03/2011 8:58:11 AM PST by Starman417
There is a point at which we, as a nation, need to have a national strategy with regards to Muslims. Most people are completely uneducated about Muslim ideology and believe that the problem with Muslims is a handful of crazies who give the rest of Muslims a bad name. People who think like this are unable to process much of reality: e.g., millions of Muslims rioting and killing people over a silly cartoon; or the fact that millions of Muslims celebrated 9/11 by dancing in the streets.
First of all, we need to recognize that Islam is a worldwide problem. And it is a human problem (just as communism is a human problem), it is not simply a religion. We do not have concerns about Buddhism, Judaism, Jehovah Witnesses, etc. There is no reason to. When there is a man-caused disaster somewhere, we do not suddenly think, maybe it is those pesky Mormons down the street. When such a bombing or shooting takes place, almost all Americans, apart from those who work for the media or for homeland security, think, Muslims.
Worldwide, there have been approximately 17,000 Muslim attacks since 9/11 and every year, about 10,000 people are killed by Muslim attacks. They know we are in a war; many of us do not.
The best place for you to initially educate yourself is at Islam: The Religion of Peace. There, you can see that Muslims attacks occur daily, all over the world, primarily targeting innocents. Even if you want to delude yourself and say, "Well, that is only 1% of Muslims that do that." That is 1 million people, which is a pretty formidable army.
Within the United States, we need to have 2 approaches: we need to revamp our sedition laws and make them very specific, so that they clearly define traitorous behavior by Muslim-Americans, but cannot be used to silence either political party or political dissent. Then the FBI needs to be involved in surveillance and sting operations throughout the United States, concentrating on mosques. When sedition is encouraged in the mosque, then that mosque needs to be shut down. I am fully aware that is going to be troublesome for some, and it may even result in some violence by Muslims. However, Islam is not simply a religion; it is an all-encompassing political movement which seeks to circumvent and eventually supplant whatever governmental system is in place where they live. This is why Muslim communities within a non-Muslim government will first attempt to establish sharia law within their communities, and then, as their population grows, continue to expand the boundaries of sharia law.
The second approach is immigration control. Personally, I am for completely stopping the influx of nearly all Muslims from other countries. However, I doubt that will happen. However, the key is Muslim population concentration. At 1-2%, Muslims tend to live peacefully, side-by-side with those of their host country. Once this percentage is exceeded, then Muslims begin to act more and more crazy.
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Boil the last 10,000 in oil from the last well in Mecca.
If any one says allah akbar, shoot him.
Speaking about Sudan, the Christians and the Non-Christians Non Muslims of Southern Sudan, if memory served me correct just voted 98% to go independent early this year, and come this July will become known as the Republic of South Sudan.
Look for American Revolution Part 2 to place.
Yes
I do not believe the first Amendment says that we have to lie down and let our enemies walk over us.
Certainly the First Amendment and many others have been violated before. Like when Lincoln locked up the Maryland legislature to keep them from Seceding, or when Roosevelt locked up Japanese, Germans, and Italians in camps.
In times of war many things happen that may not be Constitutionals and Brother, we are at war.
You can call me anything you like, but I don’t allow human sacrifice either,as some religions and Muslim who train suicidal martyrs do.
Do you suggest that is something we should allow via the First Amendment? We should allow honor killings?
Wake up. The First Amendment was not placed in the Constitution to allow a religion or political idea, like Islam to defeat and conquer us.It wasn’t meant to be used against us.
As for a coherent Muslim policy with Obama in the White House ? Dream on.
Sometimes the First Amendment reminds me of the Commandment, Thou shall not kill.
Like the Commandment it was not put there so one who obeyed it had to allow someone to kill tham, or to disallow a person who believes in to go to war as a solder.
The First Amendment does not mean we cannot stop people set on making us slaves or forcing us to belong to their religion.
I don’t think Islam, itself, is the problem. Political Correctness is the problem.
Americans KNOW that much of what Islam teaches: women as property, honor killings, jihad, etc. are WRONG. But, we’ve been taught (as a group) to not want to hurt the Muslims’ feelings. So rather than condemn what we know to be wrong, and demand that anyone who wants to be considered a “moderate” Muslim join us, instead we tip-toe around their feelings giving implicit legitimacy to those abhorrent beliefs.
Islam isn’t the problem; the loss of our collective backbone is. Let’s face it, if more people of influence stood up and simply stated the obvious — that much of what the Koran teaches is evil, foolish and stupid — much of the allure of it would vanish. We (westerners in general) give Islam credence by being too polite to call evil what it is. By serving as apologists for the stench of Islam, we (again, westerners in general) bring evil upon ourselves.
Freedom of speech and religion aren’t what needs tweaking. Americans as a whole need to stop being afraid of hurting feelings, and exercise those God-given rights. Ignoring those same rights is what’s gotten us in this mess. Rather than rejecting labels, we need to embrace some. Islam is backward, barbaric, and its core beliefs are not compatible with civilized society. Once The United States of America is willing to take this stand, those who embrace the evil of Islam need not have their rights infringed; it will be quite plain to them that what they’re peddling is not wanted. They’ll be just another fringe group like Nazis and skin heads.
Honor killings are still murder.
You can say a girl who betrays her families honor deserves death as a matter of philosophy.
Doing it is murder.
Do you understand that if I say my religion is that robbing banks gets me to Heaven my “free exercise” of religion doesn’t mean I can rob banks, only that I can believe that robbing them gets me to Heaven.
Do you understand that?
I don’t see how I wrote anything that you can interpret to mean I do not understand it.
I am afraid to say it will probably take an Islamic type of Pearl Harbor to happen before America will unite against Islam.
A small suspicious attack here and there will not enrage America, especially when it gets whitewashed and sent into the MSM Black Hole.
America is far too tolerant of Muslims, too gracious, and too afraid to draw a line against them, its our weakness and they exploit it profusely.
And obama has been sending America on a series of snipe hunts to keep everyone distracted and unfocused on the more dangerous strategy at play, to evolve America into an Islamic ruled Republic.
His Obamacare was just that, he knew what would happen, his BC eligibility issue the same. And the offshore drilling, everything he does is nothing but a fruitless distraction to enable him more time to take America down.
“Do you suggest that is something we should allow via the First Amendment? We should allow honor killings?”
Seems you don't understand that it is not the BELIEF that is illegal, it is ACTION.
The 1st Amendment doesn't “allow” honor killing or human sacrifice, but it does recognize the God given right each free person has to believe any fool thing they care to believe in.
Geez you are hung up on this thing.
OK let me spell it out for you.
Honor killings are murder. Happy?
Seeking to limit the power of government is legitimate dissent in the West, but we don't seem so keen to assert that fundamental principle when it's an Arab state.
The revolution in Egypt could go one of two ways: a fully democratic revolution that we should support; or a a bloodbath that'll end up with EITHER a tightening of the Egyptian regime or an Islamic authoritarian state in its place.
When the Kurds and the marsh Arabs were prepared to overthrow the Ba'athists and put a proper democracy in place, what did we do? Support the democractic revolution? Course not! We walked away and gave Saddam a good excuse to oppress his own people for another ten years. We patently didn't support "enduring freedom" for the Iraqis in the 1990s yet there we were post 9/11, making out that we're in the business of promoting "Enduring Freedom". Of course the Iraqis called us on it. Why didn't we promote freedom when the Iraqis were BEGGING us to promote it?
This is the problem. We have gotten a bad reputaion by promoting freedom and democracy, free and fair elections and the rule of law against tyranny, but only so long as the people calling for democracy don't happen to live under a tyrant in the Middle East. Under those circumstances, we've almost always sided with the despots.
For all we know, the average rug merchant in Cairo only wants one thing from Israel, and that's for Israelis to buy his rugs! What we don't want to do is stick two fingers up to the silent majority calling for democracy, solely because we KNOW Mubarak is more interested in bulldozing Egypt instead of Israel and we aren't so sure about a democratic government.
That wasn’t in dispute.
Go on with your bad self.
And good morning!
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