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The United States Needs a Coherent Muslim Policy
Flopping Aces ^ | 02-03-11 | Fat Frog

Posted on 02/03/2011 8:58:11 AM PST by Starman417

There is a point at which we, as a nation, need to have a national strategy with regards to Muslims. Most people are completely uneducated about Muslim ideology and believe that the problem with Muslims is a handful of crazies who give the rest of Muslims a bad name. People who think like this are unable to process much of reality: e.g., millions of Muslims rioting and killing people over a silly cartoon; or the fact that millions of Muslims celebrated 9/11 by dancing in the streets.

First of all, we need to recognize that Islam is a worldwide problem. And it is a human problem (just as communism is a human problem), it is not simply a religion. We do not have concerns about Buddhism, Judaism, Jehovah Witnesses, etc. There is no reason to. When there is a man-caused disaster somewhere, we do not suddenly think, maybe it is those pesky Mormons down the street. When such a bombing or shooting takes place, almost all Americans, apart from those who work for the media or for homeland security, think, Muslims.

Worldwide, there have been approximately 17,000 Muslim attacks since 9/11 and every year, about 10,000 people are killed by Muslim attacks. They know we are in a war; many of us do not.

The best place for you to initially educate yourself is at Islam: The Religion of Peace. There, you can see that Muslims attacks occur daily, all over the world, primarily targeting innocents. Even if you want to delude yourself and say, "Well, that is only 1% of Muslims that do that." That is 1 million people, which is a pretty formidable army.

Within the United States, we need to have 2 approaches: we need to revamp our sedition laws and make them very specific, so that they clearly define traitorous behavior by Muslim-Americans, but cannot be used to silence either political party or political dissent. Then the FBI needs to be involved in surveillance and sting operations throughout the United States, concentrating on mosques. When sedition is encouraged in the mosque, then that mosque needs to be shut down. I am fully aware that is going to be troublesome for some, and it may even result in some violence by Muslims. However, Islam is not simply a religion; it is an all-encompassing political movement which seeks to circumvent and eventually supplant whatever governmental system is in place where they live. This is why Muslim communities within a non-Muslim government will first attempt to establish sharia law within their communities, and then, as their population grows, continue to expand the boundaries of sharia law.

The second approach is immigration control. Personally, I am for completely stopping the influx of nearly all Muslims from other countries. However, I doubt that will happen. However, the key is Muslim population concentration. At 1-2%, Muslims tend to live peacefully, side-by-side with those of their host country. Once this percentage is exceeded, then Muslims begin to act more and more crazy.

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KEYWORDS: fanatical; islam; muslim
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1 posted on 02/03/2011 8:58:17 AM PST by Starman417
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To: Starman417

A policy that matches the policy of the Marine Corps.

Introducing radical Islamists to Allah.


2 posted on 02/03/2011 8:59:55 AM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Starman417

A good start would be recognizing the simple fact that there is no such thing in Islam as a base of `moderate muslims.’
Any adherent who reads the Koran and accepts it as the literal word of Allah is fundamentalist and crazy as a s***-house rat.


3 posted on 02/03/2011 9:07:29 AM PST by tumblindice ('Bi-partisanship': we all pretend the Democrats are still in charge)
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To: Starman417

I can understand that this guy wants to be realistic. At the moment, our government and our media are COMPLETELY blind to reality. Nevertheless, I think eventually, we need to do even more than this.

“Personally, I am for completely stopping the influx of nearly all Muslims from other countries. However, I doubt that will happen.”

No, probably not right away. But we certainly need to stop it from happening, but reversing the Kennedy policy of admitting people from troublemaking parts of the world. Obama, of course, is determined to admit tons more Somalis and others. That needs to be fought, NOW.

I think, too, that we finally need to confront the question of what is a religion, under the Constitution? Is Satanism a religion? Is Islam a religion? Not if it declares that its purpose is to kill and enslave everyone. And that’s what the Koran says.

At the least, I think we need to deport all non-citizen Muslims. And I think we also need to deport those who were given citizenship but have not truly accepted it. Islam and American freedom are simply not compatible. Despite what Obama has proclaimed, this is NOT a Muslim country, and there were very few Muslims in it until recent decades.

It is long past time to head back in that direction.


4 posted on 02/03/2011 9:08:19 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Starman417

Catch and Deport?


5 posted on 02/03/2011 9:08:36 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Starman417

How about this:

“Stop trying to kill us or we’ll shower you with Pork-Fried-Rice Bombs until your own imam won’t recognize you”


6 posted on 02/03/2011 9:11:45 AM PST by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Starman417

I thought we do... appease them at every turn.???


7 posted on 02/03/2011 9:11:55 AM PST by BigFinn (isa 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
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To: Starman417
What part of the 1st Amendment do you find to be ‘Incoherent’?
8 posted on 02/03/2011 9:12:23 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Starman417

We need a zero tolerance plan.

LLS


9 posted on 02/03/2011 9:19:21 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: Starman417
The United States Needs a Coherent anti-Muslim Policy

ML/NJ

10 posted on 02/03/2011 9:19:27 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Cicero

Out of curiosity though, was it apparent that Muslims had a fundamentalist nutjob agenda prior to the Islamic Revolution in Iran?

Ahmadiyya Muslims most definitely aren’t inclined toward terrorism and don’t take the same literalist approach of other sects... and that’s one of the reasons why they’re almost universally declared to be apostates in Muslim countries.


11 posted on 02/03/2011 9:20:52 AM PST by MalPearce
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To: allmendream

ISLAM is NOT A RELIGION, It is a Political Ideology, it does not and should never be associated with a RELIGION ever. Fir it is NOT. There is no such thing as a Moderate Muslim, they are BARBARIANS, yes that is the correct term that has been used to identify them since the beginning of recorded history. BARBARIANS


12 posted on 02/03/2011 9:21:18 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: Starman417
A simple policy, which will never be adopted in our PC, leftist-age is:

Do not allow anyone from Sudan, Somalia, Egypt, Libya, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Yemen, Iran, Afghanistan, Algeria to enter the United States, accept under strict diplomatic credentials.

Economically, will have no effect because these countries produce/export nothing (except oil). Their people are not a technical or labor resource useful to the United States either.

the USA can not reform the Mid-East, we should not try, nor can we expect them to love or admire the USA under any circumstances.

13 posted on 02/03/2011 9:28:26 AM PST by PGR88
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To: eyeamok
Are Americans not free to subscribe to any political ideology they wish?

What part of the 1st Amendment do you see as incoherent on that subject?

Do you propose that during the Cold War we should have outlawed belief in Communism, and arrested members of the American Communist Party for sedition?

14 posted on 02/03/2011 9:34:21 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Howie66
need to have a national strategy with regards to Muslims

Kill all of them

15 posted on 02/03/2011 9:37:44 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: allmendream

Are Americans not free to subscribe to any political ideology they wish?

IT IS NOT A RELIGION, Yes we should have arrested the American Communists and charged them, their Political Ideology is not consistent with FREEDOM and LIBERTY. Nor is it consistent with our Constitution, Are you willing to call a spade a spade?? because it seems like you are not. Honesty is always the best Policy, regardless of whose feelings are hurt. Now go pray to Allah the Pedophile.


16 posted on 02/03/2011 9:45:42 AM PST by eyeamok
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To: MalPearce
Out of curiosity though, was it apparent that Muslims had a fundamentalist nutjob agenda prior to the Islamic Revolution in Iran? Ahmadiyya Muslims most definitely aren’t inclined toward terrorism and don’t take the same literalist approach of other sects... and that’s one of the reasons why they’re almost universally declared to be apostates in Muslim countries.

History shows islam inherently designs to conquer and subjugate everyone from it's beginnings until now.

The muslim brotherhood was founded in the 1920's. German agents in both WWI and WWII fomented anti-semitism and nationalism in the middle east as a tactic. Not to mention purposely moving Lenin into place in Russia to help the Bolshevik revolution succeed as a tactic to take Russia out of WWI. In the middle east, it does not take much to arouse people already under the spell of a conquering mindset where they harbor delusions of grandeur of conquering and subjugating the entire world through the use of a mixture of lies, trickery and physical violence.

Any moderate muslim is seen by the cult as merely a useful to to deceive their prey.


17 posted on 02/03/2011 9:56:52 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: eyeamok

Screaming and ranting doesn’t convey your point any better.

So you are saying that, no, Americans are not free to subscribe to any political ideology they wish?

How about liberals, is their political ideology sufficiently not consistent with freedom and liberty or the Constitution that they should be arrested?

I will call a spade a spade. I call you out as being against the foundational freedom of conscience at the heart of our Free Republic, and against the Constitution.

But unlike you I don’t think you should be arrested for being against the Constitution, I accept that you are free to be as against the Constitution as your conscience dictates.


18 posted on 02/03/2011 9:58:33 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: eyeamok

BTTT!


19 posted on 02/03/2011 9:59:53 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: eyeamok
Are Americans not free to subscribe to any political ideology they wish? IT IS NOT A RELIGION, Yes we should have arrested the American Communists and charged them, their Political Ideology is not consistent with FREEDOM and LIBERTY.

Absolutely correct. EVERY sovereign nation has the inherent right to self defense. Our Constitution allows DISSENT, it does not allow TREASON. Seeking to overthrow the government is NOT dissent.

The deceptive islam cult has a plan to OVERTHROW our government and ABOLISH our Constitution by using our freedoms to get sympathetic politicians elected to a majority then ABOLISH our Constitution and transform the U.S. into an islamic cult state.

Inevitably this will lead to a conflict as muslims in America become more powerful and Americans increasingly realize what is happening.

Communism is also on the same path, and the two forces are working together at this point, although they are both obviously on a collision course as well.
20 posted on 02/03/2011 10:08:02 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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