Posted on 01/31/2011 6:51:12 AM PST by IbJensen
Representative Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) recently stated:
When I went to law school they said the laws what a judge says it is. Whether it is constitutional or not is going to be whether the Supreme Court says it is.
Such an opinion runs counter to that of our Founding Fathers. The men who wrote our Constitution believed that We the People should ultimately decide whether or not a law is Constitutional because We the People did ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Our Constitution was not ordained or established by We the Judges and therefore Supreme Court Judges should not be the ultimate arbiters of all Constitutional questions. Thomas Jefferson specifically refuted the opinion of Henry Waxman in his 1820 letterto William Jarvis:
You seem to consider the judges the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society, but the people themselves Thomas Jefferson
In Marbury vs. Madison the Supreme Court delegated to its self, under Article III, a power to strike down the laws of Congress if the Court believed them to violate our Constitution. This is fine and well, but the question then arises who strikes down un-Constitutional Supreme Court decisions? The question is rhetorical; We the People through our elected representatives must be empowered to strike down un-Constitutional decisions of the Supreme Court. One way for We the People to override an un-Constitutional Supreme Court is for us to pressure multiple State Legislatures to nullify such decisions within their respective borders. State nullification can also be used to strike down un-Constitutional Federal legislation if the Supreme Court fails in its duty to do so. The power of States acting in concert to enforce our Constitution was expressed by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison in the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions of 1798, and in James Madisons 1834 Notes on Nullification.
Resolved, That the several States composing, the United States of America, are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government; but that, by a compact under the style and title of a Constitution for the United States, and of amendments thereto, they constituted a general government for special purposes - delegated to that government certain definite powers, reserving, each State to itself, the residuary mass of right to their own self-government; and that whensoever the general government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force that the government created by this compact was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself; since that would have made its discretion, and not the Constitution, the measure of its powers Thomas Jefferson 1798 Kentucky Resolution
The course & scope of the reasoning [1798 Virginia Resolution] requires that by the rightful authority to interpose in the cases & for the purposes referred to, was meant, not the authority of the States singly & separately, but their authority as the partiesto the Constitution., the authority which, in fact, made the Constitution; the authority which being paramount to the Constitution was paramount to the authorities constituted by it, to the Judiciary as well as the other authorities [Congress and President]. The [Virginia] resolution derives the asserted right of interposition for arresting the progress of usurpations by the Federal Government from the fact that its powers were limited to the grant made by the States [Constitution] The mode of their interposition, in extraordinary cases, is left by the Resolution to the parties [States] themselves in the event of usurpations of power not remediable under the forms and by the means provided by the Constitution [Article V Amendment] It is sometimes asked in what mode the States could interpose in their collective character as parties to the Constitution against usurped power. It was not necessary for the object & reasoning of the resolutions & report that the mode should be pointed out. It was sufficient to shew that the authority to interpose existed, and was a resort beyond that of the Supreme Court of the U. S. or any authority derived from the Constitution [Congress and President]. James Madison 1834 Notes on Nullification
It is clear from Thomas Jefferson and James Madison that our Federal Government; including the President, Congress and the Supreme Court, is inferior to the State Legislatures when they act in concert. Several States acting together, within their respective borders, have the power to reverse un-Constitutional Federal Law, un-Constitutional Presidential Executive Orders and un-Constitutional Supreme Court Decisions. It is also clear from Article V of our Constitution that the States, acting in ¾ majority, have the power to amend our Constitution without permission of Federal Government just as the States acted in concert to create our Federal Government. The 1787 Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia represented the 13 States who, acting in concert, created our Constitution and thereby our Federal Government. Federal Government is the creature and is therefore inferior to its creator the States. Just as Federal Government including the Supreme Court - is inferior to We the People and The Several States, it should now be clear that Henry Waxmans opinion regarding the ultimate law-deciding power of our Supreme Court is inferior to that of Thomas Jefferson and James Madison, and also inferior to that of Abraham Lincoln:
The people---the people---are the rightful masters of both congresses, and courts---not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the menwho pervert it. Abraham Lincoln
An amendment to our Constitution would help settle this and other issues the amendment should include the following provision:
Supreme Court decisions shall be revoked by Congress with 2/3 or greater vote in both houses.
Our Constitution has been amended 27 times, including the first 10 amendments known as the Bill of Rights. The time has come for another amendment because there is now a greater risk to our equal unalienable rights (life, liberty and the fruit of our labor in pursuit of happiness) without an amendment just as the risk of cancer surgery is most often less than the risk of passively watching a malignancy grow and spread. Without such an amendment, as Thomas Jefferson warned, we will eventually be placed under the despotism of an oligarchy where We the Judges become wrongful masters of We the People. When we the American People are empowered through our Federal Legislature to overthrow un-Constitutional Supreme Court decisions by 2/3 super-majority (just as our Federal Legislature can overthrow a Presidential veto by 2/3 supermajority); and when We the People are empowered by our State Legislatures (acting in concert) to nullify un-Constitutional Supreme Court decisions, un-Constitutional Federal Legislation, and un-Constitutional Presidential Executive orders; we will finally become "masters of both Congress, and Courts" - masters of our own destiny.
Ronald R. Cherry, MD
Pitchfork time!
Absolutely not true -- but what do you expect from a liberal Democrat?
One of the cornerstones of the Republic set up by the Founding Fathers was the JURY SYSTEM -- designed to stand between the accused and the government to pass judgment on, among other things, whether the law was being applied correctly or not.
DRILL BABY DRILL !!!!
Judges are a huge problem; most should be impeached and tossed, but the root of the problem originates with we, the people.
All Democrats, especially the women, are extraordinarily ugly. Waxman, who looks like a rat,is typical of the Democrat (NEVER Democratic) male.
Henry Waxman is happy to pass unconstutional legislation. If he’s lucky, it will never get litigated or the SCOTUS will defer to the discretion of Congress.
In the worse case, a bill gets struck down and Waxman can shrug his shoulders and say “Not my fault children now are going to starve because of this heartless decision by Republican-appointed justices...”
Either way, Waxman wins: he gets unconstitutional laws on the books or he scores cheap debating points against Republicans. What could be more perfect for a partisan progressive?
While these are illustrative of criminal trials I think they show quite clearly that the power lies with the people.
THOMAS JEFFERSON (1789): I consider trial by jury as the only anchor ever yet imagined by man, by which a government can be held to the principles of its constitution.
JOHN ADAMS (1771): It’s not only ....(the juror’s) right, but his duty, in that case, to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgement, and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court.
JOHN JAY (1794): The jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in controversy.
ALEXANDER HAMILTON (1804): Jurors should acquit even against the judge’s instruction....”if exercising their judgement with discretion and honesty they have a clear conviction that the charge of the court is wrong.”
SAMUEL CHASE (1804): The jury has the right to determine both the law and the facts.
OLIVER WENDELL HOLMES (1920): The jury has the power to bring a verdict in the teeth of both the law and the facts.
U.S. vs. DOUGHERTY (1972) [D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals]: The jury has....”unreviewable and irreversible power...to acquit in disregard of the instructions on the law given by the trial judge.”
BYRON WHITE (1975): The purpose of a jury is to guard against the exercise of arbitrary power—to make available the common sense judgement of the community as a hedge against the overzealous or mistaken prosecutor and in preference to the professional or perhaps over
conditioned or biased response of a judge.
The nation’s leaders, from Washington forward with a few exceptions, became incredibly stupid.
The Jury hods the ultimate power over what laws are enforceable or not. If so disposed, they can nullify an unjust law.
When I went to law school they said the laws what a judge says it is. Whether it is constitutional or not is going to be whether the Supreme Court says it is.
Absolutely not true — but what do you expect from a liberal Democrat? “””
Do we know where Waxman went to school?
IF Berkeley- he might not have stretched the truth.
Supreme Court decisions shall be revoked by Congress with 2/3 or greater vote in both houses.
And the SC will rule that unconstitutional, under enumerated rights, separation of powers and just for the heck of it.
Indeed. But todays judge have been weaned on legal positivism. I think that Oliver Wendel Holmes —an ardent Darwinist—wasd the first to make this statement in his book on the Commion Law. Holmes was an atheist and a cynic, a veteran of the civil war who emerged from it convinced that all that matters is force. So we have the judge as autocrat!
They will eventually have to face "We the People"...
...via the ballot box, ballot recall, impeachment, investigation and humiliation---
And whatever legal and moral means may be necessary to replace them.
--jmho
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