Posted on 01/22/2011 8:21:30 AM PST by Texas Peartree
On the occasion of Chinese dictator Hu Jintao's visit to America, we should use this as more than a chance for President Obama to practice bowing to foreigners. This is a great time to dispel a myth about the Middle Kingdom.
Myth: China is destined to be a super power on par with the United States. Like Japan in the 1980s, China has made tremendous economic strides that thrill economists, academicians and historians alike. Unlike Japan, China is not constrained by a pacifist Constitution or recent tradition. However, it does not follow that China will be able either to continue growing or convert that economic growth into a meaningful military counterweight.
China is a mess. Yes, they have 10% economic growth, but it is from a pitiful base of poverty imposed by Emperors and Communists. Japan in the 1950s achieved economic growth of 20%. Chinas one-child policy has doomed them to get old before they get rich. No other nation has even successfully navigated that scenario, nor will China. One billion Chinese are desperately poor. The other 300 million are thieves who used the "capitalism" of the 1980 under Chairman Deng to steal privatized property. It is as Russia, but with an even worse demography.
China's environment is degraded. Geographically, they are bound by deserts on the north, mountains on the west and swamps on the south. All meaningful economic activity exists in a narrow band along their East Coast. Has any world power ever been in a worse physical spot?
China is corrupt. Beyond the...
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I completely agree with this assessment.
Why not just post it here?
Why excerpt from a blog?
Ask any Koren war ves who had the experience of facing off with the Chicoms how much of a paper tiger they are.
Good point.
They’re a paper tiger as long as there’s a bit of sea in the way.
Here’s the complete blog posting:
China: Crouching Tiger, Paper Dragon
On the occasion of Chinese dictator Hu Jintao’s visit to America, we should use this as more than a chance for President Obama to practice bowing to foreigners. This is a great time to dispel a myth about the Middle Kingdom.
Myth: China is destined to be a super power on par with the United States. Like Japan in the 1980s, China has made tremendous economic strides that thrill economists, academicians and historians alike. Unlike Japan, China is not constrained by a pacifist Constitution or recent tradition. However, it does not follow that China will be able either to continue growing or convert that economic growth into a meaningful military counterweight.
China is a mess. Yes, they have 10% economic growth, but it is from a pitiful base of poverty imposed by Emperors and Communists. Japan in the 1950s achieved economic growth of 20%. Chinas one-child policy has doomed them to get old before they get rich. No other nation has even successfully navigated that scenario, nor will China. One billion Chinese are desperately poor. The other 300 million are thieves who used the “capitalism” of the 1980 under Chairman Deng to steal privatized property. It is as Russia, but with an even worse demography.
China’s environment is degraded. Geographically, they are bound by deserts on the north, mountains on the west and swamps on the south. All meaningful economic activity exists in a narrow band along their East Coast. Has any world power ever been in a worse physical spot?
China is corrupt. Beyond the Communists theft via managed privatization, Chinese companies do not follow generally accepted accounting standards. Credit is extended to the politically connected, not the successful entrepreneur. Their banks use tricks that would have made Enron blush. This corruption led to 100,000 demonstrations last year involving hundreds of millions of protesters. Think about those numbers.
Lastly, China’s elites are not particularly tied to Chinas long-term health. While nationalism is an issue for the average peasant, the elite travel the world, send their kids to America for college, buy homes in San Francisco and ensure that they have bank accounts accessible outside of China. Like the Russian oligarchs who robbed Russia blind and then moved to London, the Chinese billionaires (there are 200 of them, to go along with 500,000 millionaires) will take the money and run when China becomes unstable.
Does this sound like a long-term threat?
See post #6 for the full blog posting
The collapse of Three Gorges dam will collapse China. It’s a matter of when, not if.
Two facts about China that should dispel them as any kind of economic threat:
The one child policy will be catching up to them in a decade or so. The vast majority of their population will no longer be productive and the few who can be part of the labor force will need to support them.
While a lot of folks see footage of Bejing with people appearing virtually western, the average Chinese person is a subsistence farmer, totally illiterate, who's never made a phone call.
Here is the key thought. We have this problem too, the new world order. We have left wing internationalists and capital rich elite colluding to keep power and wealth in the hands of a few.
Ping
(Someone ought to ask him how PRC saved up enough to buy up nearly ONE TRILLION is US bonds.)
Those things are plenty true of China.
However, there are also plenty of Chinese ‘patriots’ in the sense that their dedication to
CHINA AND CHINESE FIRST
is more intense than typical Americans’ ‘patriotism.’
China, imho, WILL BE USED by the globalist oligarchy to attack America . . .
per . . . some scenario quite close to this envisioned/dreamed by this prophetic Christian:
DIMITRU DUDUMANS VISION OF CHINA AND RUSSIA STRIKING USA WWIII
http://www.handofhelp.com/vision_36.php
Sure China’s a mess—a big mess
a big . . . rather powerful mess . . . without any Judeo/Christian moral substrate and not much Confucian substrate left—just raw
POWER AND GREED . . . almost unchecked.
Uprisings could cause some serious problems . . . until they could manage the mass terminations.
Warfare, either near their borders or far away, may seem like a reasonable diversion. China will be a problem, one way or another.
Last September, I traveled to D.C. to do some research.While waiting to board my flight, I noticed a group of Chinese men, all the age to be senior Liberation Army officers. As they started to cross the sky bridge from the parking structure to the terminal, they laughed and joked about not being in step with each other.(It's a tradition amongst western military that walking in step will cause vibrations that will destroy the bridge - Notice where the German Army hide Ernest Rhom during the 1920's)
Seems we all boarded the same flight. I used that opportunity to look these gentlemen over - they told the steward they were toy manufacturers. But nothing fit, their clothing was like something from Goodwill,they were not gregarious,they had no business cards, etc., etc. So I played hard eyeballs with them... I'm certain these were Infantry - Special ops guys.They had a very series continence, and some very cold eyes.
What they retain that is tangible and real are machinery and know how to make all the stuff we have been buying from them with same said paper and promises. What they do not have in any sufficient quantity are the resources to keep that machinery running or, if we decide to stop buying the stuff they make and turn instead inward or toward another low cost source such as India, an adequate market to sell it to.
I could be wrong but have to assume the author (and I, for that matter) has been to China more often and to more places beyond the amazing skyline of Shanghai or yellow sulfurous sky of Beijing than you. In my humble but well traveled opinion he is anything but "clueless". Would they be a deadly foe in war? Certainly. Could they push us out of the West Pacific basin before we could recover? Sure. That's been done before and by an economically weaker but far more fanatic enemy within some folks' living memory. But it is as much a mistake to overestimate China than to underestimate just how precarious her situation is.
China is one moment away from exploding into all out revolution.
One BILLION people are, sooner or later, going to get fed up with their overlords and when they do we will see what is left when the smoke clears.
There are people in China who are thinking along these lines.
You don’t read about them in the press, you don’t see them on the nightly news (not since Tianamen Square) but they are there, they are restless and about ready to blow.
People have always yearned for freedom ... and they will get it eventually through whatever means necessary.
However, the Chinese believe 2012 is a real event. No, Jesus is not returning; the Earth is going to get hit with (between) 14 and 42 serious sized meteors.
They will appear to give Obama a great victory when they raise the value of the Yuan.
In reality,that will just give them more money to buy up our wheat/corn/etc.
Notice how commodities have risen over the past few months? The word is getting out what's in store.
Sounds highly likely.
They have a near copyright on
ruthlessness.
POWER is virtually God to many, if not most of them.
INDEED.
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