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Best Option to Repeal Obamacare
Town Hall ^ | 1/17/11 | reasonmclucus

Posted on 01/17/2011 4:33:11 PM PST by kathsua

If House Republicans are serious about wanting to repeal Obamacare, they should pass a Resolution stating that some, or all, portions of the Obamacare law are unconstitutional. A House Resolution doesn't require Senate approval and cannot be vetoed as would be the case with a bill eliminating Obamacare.

The Resolution should include a statement reminding the courts that the only justification Chief John Marshall could cite for ruling on the constitutionality of an Act of Congress in Marbury v. Madison was the oath the justices took to support the Constitution. Members of Congress take the same oath and thus have the same authority to express opinions of the Constitution.

The voters provide the ultimate check on government. If one Congress acts contrary to what voters think is correct, they have the option of electing new members to correct the improper action. The House of Representatives is the closest to the people because each district is approximately equal in population and all are subject to replacement every two years.

Those challenging Obamacare in court could use such a Resolution to support their claims that the law is unconstitutional.

House members should consult with those challenging Obamacare for suggestions about what the Resolution should include. The following indicate some of the substantial constitutional problems with Obamacare.

Regulating individual behavior using the Interstate Commerce Clause sounds like a violation of the 13th Amendment which abolished slavery. Congress could regulate the behavior of humans as elements of commerce when those humans were commodities to be bought and sold as slaves. Free citizens have the freedom to engage in interstate commerce or not engage in interstate commerce.

Requiring people to pay for health care by purchasing insurance violates their right to privacy in making health care decisions. The Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade and other cases has held that government cannot interfere in a person's right to make personal health care decisions. Requiring people to purchase insurance can force them to turn over health care decisions to an insurance company. Forcing them to turn money over to an insurance company instead of using it to pay for the type of health care they desire can deprive them of their right to choose health care options the insurance company doesn't support, such as plastic surgery, a sex change operation or treatment insurance companies considers "experimental".

Abortion supporters don't understand that Obamacare could eliminate abortion funding if health insurance companies considered late term or other abortions too costly or "risky". If the Interstate Commerce Clause can override the right to privacy on health insurance, then it can override the right to privacy on other health care decisions. This possibility may not be important for Obamacare opponents, but it is important to many Supreme Court justices.

Requiring people to purchase private health insurance violates the freedom of religion guarantees of the First Amendment. Some religions such as the Amish religion and Islam consider purchasing private insurance wrong. The Christian Science religion questions the use of medical doctors. Requiring members of these religions to purchase private health insurance deprives them of their right to practice their religion.

Exempting them from the requirement, creates a special benefit that amounts to a subsidy of their beliefs because they are allowed to keep more of their money for their own use, including donating it to their organization, than those who belong to other religious groups or don't belong to any religious group. Allowing members of some religions to spend money that members of other religions don't have to spend has the same impact as providing a direct government subsidy of the privileged religious groups. The First Amendment refers to government subsidy of a religion(s) as an "establishment of religion".

I have heard that the act creating Obamacare contains a provision that in effect states that if the Supreme Court finds any part of the act unconstitutional than the entire act would be invalid. Such a provision in and of itself would render the act unconstitutional because the provision would alter the powers of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court's ruling in Marbury v. Madison invalidated an Act of Congress for a less significant attempt to alter the Court's power.

Such a provision would drastically alter the Court's Article 3 powers both expanding and restricting them. The provision would in effect grant the Court a stronger veto power than the President has because Congress could not override the Court's "veto". On the other hand the provision would dictate to the Court by removing the option of invalidating or modifying only those provisions in legislation that in the opinion of a majority of the Court violate some portion of the Constitution. The Constitution established the judicial branch to limit the ability of the government to control the lives of its citizens by limiting the circumstances under which the government could impose punishment. The judicial branch is not supposed to function as a super legislature.

The requirement that individuals purchase health insurance from private companies at rates set by those companies involves the transfer of the government's taxing authority to private companies which deprives voters of the ability to elect those who determine their taxes.

The Resolution should remind the Court that forcing people to purchase private health insurance is unnecessary to provide people with access to health care. Government can raise revenue to pay for health care with its taxation powers and then use that money to directly pay health care costs as it already does with Medicare and Medicaid.

The comparison of Obamacare to requirements for purchasing auto liability insurance is invalid. The auto liability insurance requirement is a requirement that those who engage in the dangerous activity of driving a motor vehicle prove they can compensate anyone who suffers a loss because of their mistakes while operating a motor vehicle. Many states allow motorists to fulfill this liability requirement by posting a bond rather than purchasing insurance.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: challenge; constitution; obamacare
Why are House Republicans wasting time passing a law they know will go no where? Is it just so they can claim they did something for publicity purposes?

Would it be possible for the House to challenge Obamacare in court directly, or would that be improper?

1 posted on 01/17/2011 4:33:14 PM PST by kathsua
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To: kathsua

Why not just deem it repealed?


2 posted on 01/17/2011 4:34:46 PM PST by Huck (The GOP symbol should be the platypus; they speak in platitudes and they act like pussies.)
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To: kathsua

Its to bring Senate Dems to vote on the repeal, all 23 that are running for re-election in 2012. Go on the record boys!
(Harry will have to eat it and obstruct the debate like Daschle did.)


3 posted on 01/17/2011 4:36:30 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: kathsua

challenging in court the last resort....meanwhile, Rino’s seek advantages in keeping “some” ideas to control and profit.
After all, not ONE RINO considers free health care free of government restrictions on THEM a bad thing.


4 posted on 01/17/2011 4:38:32 PM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: CIDKauf
Harry will have to eat it and obstruct the debate like Daschle did

For PR purposes, if the Dems block the repeal from a vote in the Senate, the Republicans should claim that "all Senate Democrats voted against the repeal!"

5 posted on 01/17/2011 4:39:37 PM PST by Lou L (The Senate without a fillibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: kathsua
"Why are House Republicans wasting time passing a law they know will go no where?"

Ammunition for the ‘12, ‘14, and ‘16 elections, depending on the condition of “Obamacare”. Once ‘14 kicks in, the realization will hit home to many people still in La-La Land.

6 posted on 01/17/2011 4:46:33 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Huck

I second that motion.


7 posted on 01/17/2011 4:47:03 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Lou L

Seems fair to me, but... the Cultural Warrior would advise not to use their tactics, but state the obvious truth that Democrats are for the passed bill, as they voted, and should be held accountable in the elections. Its a slippery slope to use the eye for an eye strategy in the culture war.


8 posted on 01/17/2011 4:47:06 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: Huck
Why not just deem it repealed?

Because that would be waaay to far passed just the lesser of two evils.

It could even make them out to be something as fanatically right wing as (gasp) leftist opposition.

9 posted on 01/17/2011 4:47:16 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: kathsua
Why are House Republicans wasting time passing a law they know will go no where?

Actually, it amounts to a compromise of principle and a surrender of sorts. They should vote to get the Federal Government completely out of health care, period.

Voting to just repeal Obamacare makes it appear as if they think Medicare may be legitimate and constitutional.

10 posted on 01/17/2011 4:49:44 PM PST by Walts Ice Pick
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To: kathsua
Your article is about a resolution, not a bill. It would be a statement from a co-equal branch, composed of people with a duty to judge constitutionality that is just as viable as the opinions of judges on the Supreme Court. Consider it a super amicus brief.

Most people, including Bush 43, believe the Congress and Prez have no responsibility to judge the constitutionality of legislation, that it is the sole responsibility of the courts.

11 posted on 01/17/2011 4:55:33 PM PST by Jacquerie
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To: kathsua

This goes way beyond nuclear, its TEOTWAWKI !!! (I like it !)


12 posted on 01/17/2011 5:24:57 PM PST by 11th_VA (Bush is gone, long live the Tea Party ....)
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To: kathsua
I'll tell you what I'm afraid of,....In the beginning of the bill, it was stated that the bill would die if ANYTHING changed. The way the bill was set up made it all or nothing with the Senate.

Now lets look at taking this out, adding that, and modifying this. What you are doing is admitting that it is here to stay and we will just massage it.

It needs to go, lock stock and barrel. If we want to make changes in health care it should be one thing at a time after it has been killed.

If the courts say you can't make someone buy something they don't want, the bill is dead. If we start to chip away at the bill, it is cut in stone that it will remain. Changing a train wreck doesn't fix the train wreck. What we will be doing is admitting we want the government to ration our treatments and ok what our doctors can do.

13 posted on 01/17/2011 5:42:10 PM PST by chuckles
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