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There are times when civility is not the answer
The American Thinker Blog ^ | January 15, 2011 | Bill Weckesser

Posted on 01/15/2011 1:52:32 AM PST by Scanian

There can certainly be too much civility. This is especially true where civility morphs into a hyper politeness that politicians can cower behind as political subterfuge. There's hardly a more graphic example than the black genocide going on in....America.

Chuck Colson, on his Breakpoint Commentary, relates the story of Walter Hoy, a modern day Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Like Dr. King, Hoy uses non-violence to focus his ministry on the plight of African Americans. Additionally, like his predecessor, he's spent time behind bars for his convictions. Mr. Hoy has been jailed in the U.S. for violating a "bubble zone" ordinance in an abortion facility where he'd been counseling for life.

"When Dr. King wrote his letter, From a Birmingham Jail, he addressed those who thought his civil rights activities unwise and untimely. In his speeches, Hoy also addresses those who say that his cause is worthy and just but that he should just wait. 'I can't wait.' Hoy says. 'You see, my people are dying.'

Since 1973, he notes, over 14.5 million black babies have been killed by abortion. Every, single day, 1,200 black babies are put to death in abortion facilities, making abortion the leading cause of death among African Americans! Nearly half of all black babies conceived die in abortion chambers today. Hoy says this means that a black child is safer on the streets of the worst neighborhoods in American than in his mother's womb.

Hoy notes that between 1882 and 1968, 3,446 blacks were lynched by the Ku Klux Klan. Today, abortion kills more black Americans in less than three days than the Klan killed in 86 years! Think of it.

American blacks make up twelve percent of the U.S. population, yet thirty-seven percent of all abortions are performed on black women. This is because eugenic-minded pro-abortion forces target American blacks by putting abortion clinics in black neighborhoods, according to Hoy.

He's also turned his rhetorical guns on America's first black president. Quoting Elvita King, niece of Dr. King, he says that 'those of us who care about the civil rights of all Americans-born and unborn--oppose Obamacare because we oppose the expansion of the most racist industry in America--the abortion industry.'

The high black abortion rate has ominous implications down the road. According to the 2006 U.S. Census, the black fertility rate is 1.9--well below the replacement rate of 2.1. 'Within a few decades,' Hoy warns, 'African Americans may well be an endangered species.' This is why he calls abortion the 'Darfur of the black community.'"

Mr. Obama's silence on this African American genocide is deafening. Of course, he's quite civil on the matter. He's civilly and politely quiet. And, sadly, so too are all those tea-party conservatives who admonish us to disregard the moral issues. Perhaps we do so at our own peril.

Scripture relates the story of Jesus over-turning the tables of the merchants who'd turned the ancient temple into a bazaar. The Apostle Paul counsels that one can, "be angry and sin not." (Eph 4:26). Certainly there are moral matters worth fighting for, even if doing so ruffles feathers and appears to be uncivil.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; coweringpoliticians; hyperpoliteness; moralissues; walterhoy

1 posted on 01/15/2011 1:52:35 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Civility is over rated...


2 posted on 01/15/2011 2:57:24 AM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: BigCinBigD

Incivility even more so


3 posted on 01/15/2011 3:07:24 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Scanian
According to the 2006 U.S. Census, the black fertility rate is 1.9--well below the replacement rate of 2.1. 'Within a few decades,' Hoy warns, 'African Americans may well be an endangered species.'

That's what Planned Parenthood is all about, folks.

4 posted on 01/15/2011 3:21:42 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

You know it——just check on where your local PP is located. Almost always close by the ‘hood.


5 posted on 01/15/2011 3:30:53 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Vanders9

Now, now. Let’s be civil...or not. ;o)


6 posted on 01/15/2011 3:32:52 AM PST by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: Scanian

I’m perfectly civil to fellow Americans. I simply don’t see extending that to perpetrators of crimes against humanity such as socialist and communist criminals. Ain’t gonna happen.


7 posted on 01/15/2011 4:27:59 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

“Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.”

Civility, as the left uses it, means you are not to respond to any aggression coming from their corner. You are to pretend it isn’t happening, though civilization is disappearing in front of your eyes.


8 posted on 01/15/2011 4:56:05 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Vanders9
Incivility is underrated. Would you call Matthew 21:12 civil?
9 posted on 01/15/2011 5:23:52 AM PST by magslinger (Samuel Colt, feminist. Making women equal to men for over 150 years.)
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To: Scanian
This is like a boxing match, where one fighter (the rat party) got knocked down.

Immediately he wants to call a ten minute “no hitting truce” because, he claims, somebody miles away was just hit and killed by a mugger miles away.

The sudden ‘rat call for civility is a transparent joke. Only a fool buys it. Sadly, this includes most RINOs.

10 posted on 01/15/2011 5:37:36 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: jazzlite

Bingo.


11 posted on 01/15/2011 5:38:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Fox News seems to have bought it-—big time!

(I’m beginning to fear that the emails we sent to Ailes last weekend might have backfired. He told his boys to “tone it down” but it seems like the only ones who actually did tone anything down were the conservatives.)


12 posted on 01/15/2011 5:45:15 AM PST by Scanian
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To: Scanian

As of now, Chris Matthews is still blaming Sarah Palin for all the hate in the world. Her “blood libel” defense of herself is now added to her litany of horrors. It’s 1984 on MSNBC.


13 posted on 01/15/2011 5:51:38 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

That’s what I mean...they never let up.

Matthews doesn’t have much of an audience (sometimes I wonder if he’d even be on the air except for the free publicity we conservatives give him) but he reaches the people MSNBC and the DNC care about. And those are the ones who send in the contributions.


14 posted on 01/15/2011 5:55:29 AM PST by Scanian
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To: BigCinBigD
Heh...ok.

But seriously, at a time when the quality of reasoned debate is being seriously questioned in the public arena for the first time in years, it seems an odd time to belittle civility.

15 posted on 01/16/2011 2:20:31 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: magslinger
No, but that anger was justified, and had a lot of public support as well. Why be incivil when you dont have to be? If you have a disagreement with someone over a parking space, you dont shoot them straight away. Or perhaps you do, judging by your tagline!

Incivility breeds incivility. And does it not say do unto others as you would have them do to you?

16 posted on 01/16/2011 2:25:21 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
No, but that anger was justified, and had a lot of public support as well.

So you agree that there are times when uncivility has it's uses? Good, you had me worried.

Why be incivil when you dont have to be?

I didn't say one should never be civil, just that even He found times when being uncivil worked.

If you have a disagreement with someone over a parking space, you dont shoot them straight away.

I didn't say that or anything close to that.

Or perhaps you do, judging by your tagline!

Women being able to be effectively uncivil to even the largest man would tend to increase total civility, not decrease it.

17 posted on 01/16/2011 6:59:52 AM PST by magslinger (Samuel Colt, feminist. Making women equal to men for over 150 years.)
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To: magslinger

The point I was trying to make by using the hyperbole about shooting the person over a parking space is that we should start by being civil, and progress beyond that only if it becomes neccesary to do so. Sorry if you grabbed hold of the wrong end of the stick there. Personally I find that people respond to civility with civility most of the time.


18 posted on 01/16/2011 2:09:07 PM PST by Vanders9
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