How Can America “Thrive” with a Liar and Fraudster in the Office of the Presidency?

The Post and Email Blog ^ | Jan. 13, 2011 | Comment Left by a Reader

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

CBS News allowed the following comment to be published on its website, following an article about Obama’s visit to Arizona yesterday:

... Who were the doctor(s) and nurse(s) at Kapi`Olani that delivered Barack? My ex-wife worked at the hospital and I understand the records at Kapi’Olani are impeccable. Where are the foot prints? What public records exist that can even demonstrate that Mrs. Obama was even at Kapi’Olani on the day of Barack’s birth? Talk at Kapi`Olani, would have been unabashed, the city of Honolulu at the time very racist towards black people.

[bushpilot1]

for the obotturs

“At the time of the adoption of the Constitution, immigration was anticipated and provisions for naturalization would immediately follow the establishment of the government.

Those resident in the United States at the time the Constitution was adopted were made citizens. Thereafter the president must be taken from the natural-born citizens.

If it was intended that anybody who was a citizen by birth should be eligible, it would only have been necessary to say, “no person, except a native-born citizen”; but

the framers thought it wise, in view of the probable influx of European immigration, to provide that the president should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance to the United States at the time of his birth.”

“the first congress entertained and declared the opinion that children of American parentage, wherever born, were within the constitutional designation, “natural-born citizens.”

“The act is declaratory; but the reason that such children are natural born remains; that is, their American citizenship is natural — the result of parentage—and is not artificial or acquired by compliance with legislative requirements.”

ALEXANDER PORTER MORSE (ALBANY LAW JOURNAL VOL. 66 (1904-1905) (located by patlin)

http://74.125.155.132/scholar?q=cache:jm7yvQbF034J:scholar.google.com/+%22jus+soli++jus+sanguinis+&hl=en&as_sdt=2,5

[bushpilot1]

“what was the obvious purpose and intent of the limitation?

Plainly, it was inserted in order to exclude “aliens” by birth and blood”

“Our conclusion is that the child of citizens of the United States is “a natural-born citizen of the United States,” within the constitutional requirement; and, as such, if possessed of the other qualifications, would be eligible for the office of president of the United States.” Morse

WASHINGTON, D.C., March, 19o4

[thecodont]

The formation of a traceable oral tradition would be a reasonable expectation, given the unusualness of the situation and the highly interactive culture the writer is describing. You can make a memory hole much easier where people are not so connected. The anomalous void, the absence of a local Obama nativity legend, is intriguing indeed.

For his nativity setting, BO and his handlers should have instead chosen a windswept, desolate corner of Montana. "Of course there were no witnesses--there were hardly any other people around." Instead he chooses the land of aloha, where people are so connected, where there are few places to hide and news travels fast over backyard fences. The fact that there is no local nativity story screams volumes.

[IbJensen]

The answer is simple.

American CAN NOT thrive with this lying, fraudster of a muslim commie in the White Hut with his crew of nation-wreckers using up all the toilet paper and what’s left of the Constitution to wipe their lying asses!

[IbJensen]

Where are the foot prints? Somebody asked.

You can’t take the prints of something that wasn’t there.

Obozo may be just a figment of Soros’ and the rest of the killers of America’s evil minds.

[melancholy]

Your logic is mind boogling [SIC].

I'll take the logic of scientists against that of lawyers anytime!

Assume Mr./Ms. explosive lawyer that you were hired by "birthers" to argue one of their lawsuits against 0b0z0, you would have been tripping over your drawers to prove him ineligible, right?

Now, an honest scientist won't be affected by money to state that 1+1=7 because it's impossible.

Mind you, I used the adjective "honest" to separate real scientists from pseudo-scientists such as Global Worming Hockey Stick Chart inventors, etc.

Of course, per your post, "boogle" is your friend; they are liberal enough to direct your search where they please, given that the great failed lawyer of all time, algore, sits on their board.

I betcha algore wouldn't show his embarrassing education records that are full of Ds and Fs! Not that anybody cares to see them.

Now, you can go "boogle" that or you can dance the “boogie” as you have been doing in your postings. Since you must be for “choice,” it’s your choice!

[Hotlanta Mike]

Are you claiming Harvard University lied about Obama being President of the Law Review or graduating Summa Cum Laude?

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What does that have to do with the price of milk? I responded to your nonsensical statement

[Are you claiming both candidates for POTUS were ineligible? Wow and nobody caught this, not Scalia or Roberts or anyone.]

with “Are you claiming now that it’s the responsibility of SCOTUS to vet the presidential candidates?”

Well???

[wintertime]

Fundamentally here are the **FACTS**:

Fact: TNTNT can *not* name even one legislator, judge, military person, or electoral college member who has seen any government certified ( court acceptable) evidence that Obama is a natural born citizen ( or even a citizen at all!)

Fact: The only evidence presented to legislators, judges, military personnel, and electoral college voters has been twitters, Internet images of dubious origin, and a few carefully crafted and highly massaged ( masturbated) statements from Lingle and Fukino. ( Am I correct that Lingle’s statement would be considered “hearsay”?)

Fact: It is a **SIMPLE** matter to prove one’s natural born citizenship. Unanointed American serfs do it routinely for many reasons. Most of these reasons are far far far less important than having control of the world's most destructive military force since the dawn of creation.

Fact: Obama has gone to considerable expense to prevent the release of **COMMON** documents. He has sent private and TAX-PAID attorneys to courts across the nation.

Fact: The citizenship of the sweet little “tweenies” performing in their cute spandex costumes on the U.S. Olympic gymnastic team are better vetted than Obama.

Fact: A **REAL** American president would be **HONORED** to promptly prove that he is a natural born citizen. He would be especially pleased to do this for any member of the military.

[matt1234]

Related FR thread:

"Together We Thrive" echoes Kenyan Odinga's slogan: "Fairly we share, together we prosper"

[Fantasywriter]

I read the thread at your link. It is very informative and insightful. What a chilling picture of this African Marxist, Obama, is emerging. I agree with whoever it was on your thread—possibly you—who said Obama has father issues. Does he ever. Obama’s psyche is a witch’s brew of sociopathic abnormalities. In a sane period of history he’d be receiving the therapeutic help he needs. In our leftist PC culture he’s put in charge of the country. Sick.

[matt1234]

Thank you. I did not point out the father issues, but I agree that obama has them. The SRM refused to report this guy accurately, and the sheeple bought the nicely wrapped package.

[Hotlanta Mike]

I am familiar with Donofrio’s blog and he posits another birther myth.

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As an eligibility troll I am sure you are familiar with him. Your crackpot theory “Nothing in the United States Jurisprudence that a person cannot be a nbc if that person has dual citizenship.” is nothing more than providing fog and cover to assist groups to eat away at the Consitution. Why else was the “grandfather clause” placed into the Consitution for qualifying for the presidency? Why else was Obama and his minions before the election attempting to change the meaning of NBC, and what was the real motive behind the “mean-mothing” Senate Resolution 511 which did not even reach the House of Representatives for review and debate?

All of the eligibility lawsuits have thus far been denied trial on the merits because of “standing”. Even the NH challenge to McCain’s eligibility he used “standing” and “no direct injury” as the sole arguments in response and managed to prevail (serving as a blueprint for Obama to use for his challenges?). So there were 2 candidates in 2008 both not constitutionally eligible to qualify for office.

Care to comment why Obama has not been responsive to this lawsuit?

Pending Obamacare lawsuit alleges healthcare-reform bill is unconstitutional on 15 separate counts including Obama’s eligibility.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/pending-obamacare-lawsuit-alleges.html

Excerpt:

“Nicholas E. Purpura and Donald R. Laster Jr, who have been suing the federal government (Purpura et al. v. Sebelius et al.,[embedded below] docket no. 3:10CV-04814-GEB-DEA) alleging that the massive healthcare-reform bill (HR 3590) is unconstitutional on fifteen separate counts, reminded this Examiner that the government has hinted three times that they would produce a motion-to-dismiss and demonstrate that each of those fifteen counts was without merit. Though no such motion or responsive pleading has been forthcoming (hence the request for summary judgment, because a responsive pleading is now nearly two months overdue), the two plaintiffs, who are litigating pro se, decided to anticipate every possible argument that the defense could make against their case or their conduct of it. The affidavit[embedded below] runs to 15 pages, not including a 3-page table of authorities.”

What, is he going to respond to only 14 counts and not address one specific count? In particular

* Count 6, asserting that Obama couldn’t sign the bill into law anyway because he was not a natural-born citizen.

[Fantasywriter]

I am curious, HM, what you and others more knowledgeable on the eligibility issue than I am think of Farah? I came upon one of his quote recently that interested me:

“... I have frankly and candidly offered grave doubts that this issue would ever be settled by the courts. I think those who have pushed resolution in the courts are brave and commendable for their efforts. But, as I have said countless times, there is no judge in America who is ever going to rule the sitting “president” ineligible. It’s just not going to happen. The judiciary is, like it or not, a political institution.

But as the court of public opinion on this constitutional question has shifted dramatically over the last year, with some 58 percent of Americans voicing skepticism about Obama’s eligibility, resolution is no longer a long shot. It is in sight. It is at hand.”

Farah thinks the victory is at hand via legislation. Is this an opinion shared in many eligibility circles?

Here’s the thread from which I lifted the quote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2631136/posts

[Las Vegas Ron]

Hey lj!

I see we have a noob troll here...disgusting little creature too.

[Hotlanta Mike]

I am curious, HM, what you and others more knowledgeable on the eligibility issue than I am think of Farah?

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My personal view is that the lower courts and SCOTUS are finding every reason not to try any of these cases on the merits because they believe this is a political issue and needed to be addressed in Congress either during the counting of the electoral college votes or thereafter. However, Congress failed in their duty.

I suspect the only “legal” means to remove Obama from office is through an action quo warranto in the District Court of the District of Columbia.

“The federal statute for quo warranto was tailor made by the legislature to challengeany person occupyingany public office of the United States under questionable title thereto.”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17239725/Leo-Donofrio-Quo-Warranto-Legal-Brief

However for standing to not be denied the case needs to be filed on behalf of The United States. Who has the ability to do this is discussed in the document. Donofrio uses the names AG Holder (which he will not instigate) or US Attorney Jeffrey Taylor (Bush appointee).

I am not quite sure whether any such quo warranto actions have been filed in the District Court of the District of Columbia.

Otherwise this issue has to stay in the public domain and pressure the individual states to pass legislation requiring verification that the candidates are NBC.

[Las Vegas Ron]

I will check on the Magna v. Summa

While you're at it, check out what Magna + Summa equals....because you're full of it!

[Las Vegas Ron]

There are two types of citizenship in the U.S.and only two, natural born and naturalized.

For some one who claims to be an expert on law, you're sure wrong a lot.

Obamao claims he is a Native Citizen, you know the third kind?

BTW, here is a 1771 definition of Native Citizen from Britannica:

Please note the plural in "parents

You lose, obamao loses and unfortunately so do we.

[Fantasywriter]

Thanks. I figured you would know the facts.

The more I find out, the more of a sense of the magnitude of this issue/fraud I have. Nothing like this has ever happened in US history. Yes, Chester Arthur lied about his date of birth, and he lied again and again and again about the timing of his father’s naturalization. But he didn’t try to turn the US into a Marxist hellhole.

We are living through a defining moment. I thank God for all the patriots who are fighting for the life and integrity of this great country.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Nice job on this thread you guys.

A hat tip to you both ;)

[Hotlanta Mike]

And TNTNT implies that that because he “off the top of his mind” remembers that there were other dual citizens who achieved office makes it okay for Obama or McCain to do so as well. I suspect if anything the general public at large at those earlier occasions (I don’t know because I wasn’t alive then) were not made aware that these candidates did not meet the constitutional requirements to attain office. TNTNT makes it seem like it was common knowledge on the part of the general public that these candidates were dual citizens. No, quite the contrary. If in fact its true then they as well usurped the office just like the current inhabitant of the White House.