Will Obama Silence Blundering Abercrombie?(Hawaii's 'Progressive' Gov./Certifigate)

American Thinker ^ | January 3, 2011 | Jack Cashill

[2ndDivisionVet]

For reasons clear to no one just yet, Hawaii's new Democrat governor, Neil Abercrombie, has gone public with his desire to silence the so-called "birthers" with proof of Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth.

"Maybe I'm the only one in the country," Abercrombie told the Los Angeles Times just before Christmas, "that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, 'I was here when that baby was born.'"

A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn't exactly see Obama's parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he "remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events."

Although the major media have questioned why Abercrombie would raise an issue that, according to the Los Angeles Times, "most people see as resolved," they take Abercrombie at his word as to what he knows about the young Obama family.

They shouldn't. Abercrombie's boasts about his relationship with the president's presumed parents, Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham, have got to unnerve the president and his close advisors. They know something the media perversely choose not to know: Abercrombie is remembering a past that never happened.

A member of the House's progressive caucus before his election as governor, Abercrombie has been talking excitedly about the relationship for years, playing John the Baptist to Obama's Jesus.

"Little Barry, that's what we called him," Abercrombie told the Chicago Tribune while "recalling his days with Obama Sr. and his future wife, Ann Dunham, at the University of Hawaii." If Obama were born on August 4, 1961, however, there could not have been many such days.

As is thoroughly documented, Ann and little Barry were in Seattle two weeks later, where she enrolled at the University of Washington. By the time she returned to Hawaii in late summer or fall 1962, Barack Sr. had left for Harvard for good.

Citing Abercrombie as source, a 2007 Hawaii TV news report claimed that Ann "became estranged from her husband, Barack Obama[,] Sr., after his departure for Harvard." I don't know about Hawaii, but in Missouri, if you flee your husband with baby in tow two weeks after his birth, that qualifies as "estrangement."

According to divorce papers filed in 1964, Barack Sr. and Ann married in Wailuku, Maui on February 2, 1961. But one has to wonder whether it was a marriage in anything but name, or whether there was a marriage at all. Obama himself writes in Dreams, "In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I've never quite had the courage to explore."

No one attended the wedding -- not Abercrombie, not Ann's parents. In fact, no one in Barack Sr.'s clique seemed to know there was a relationship, let alone a wedding. Neil's brother Hal never saw Ann and Barack Sr. together. Another clique member, Pake Zane, who had distinct memories of Barack Sr., could not recall Ann at all. When Neil Abercrombie and Zane visited their friend in Nairobi in 1968, Barack Sr. shocked them by never once inquiring about his putative wife and 6-year-old son.

The 17-year-old Ann had met the 24 year-old Barack Sr. in Russian class at the University of Hawaii. Why they were studying Russian (in 1960, people like Lee Harvey Oswald studied Russian) is a question for another day. In Dreams, Ann provides only the sketchiest detail of their first date -- Barack Sr. came an hour late and with friends -- and nothing more.

A high school friend of Ann's claims to have received a letter or two from Ann in which she spoke about Barack Sr., and there is no reason to doubt her. But beyond this, there is no evidence of a relationship, and the only evidence for the marriage are the divorce papers, which are real and have been posted online.

One reason people marry in a county other than their own -- Maui County, for instance -- is to keep the announcement of the marriage license out of the local paper. By claiming a Maui wedding, and perhaps even attaining a Maui license, the Dunhams could have assured the baby an identity without drawing attention to the relationship.

If Obama had, in fact, been born out of wedlock, or if his father had been someone other than Barack Sr., that would not have affected Obama's eligibility for higher office, but it would have surely de-glamorized him. "Barry Dunham" does not exactly tease the imagination.

Whatever his contribution, Obama Sr. lent young Barry a name, an identity, and a romantic storyline. Obama's mother and grandparents sustained this narrative throughout Obama's childhood.

Barack Obama repeated this story in his memoir Dreams from My Father, and to good effect. When Obama hooked up with campaign guru David Axelrod in his 2004 race for the U.S. Senate, his story crystallized into a marketing strategy. In the retelling, little Barry is always two years old when Barack Sr. reluctantly leaves wife and son for Harvard. This is a lie.

Guided by Axelrod, Obama held off in his breakthrough keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic convention for all of 46 words -- including "Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much" -- before sharing his story with the world.

At the 2008 Democratic Convention in Denver, Obama leaped into the story in the very first sentence. "Four years ago," he began, "I stood before you and told you my story -- of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren't well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to."

In between the two convention speeches, the story of Obama's birth was told more often than that of anyone's since Jesus. No one, of course, told it as convincingly as Obama himself, especially in his game-saving Philadelphia speech, immodestly titled "A More Perfect Union."

In this speech, delivered to negate the baleful impact of the Jeremiah Wright videos, Obama attributed his faith in the American people to his "own American story." He reminded those few registered voters who might somehow have forgotten that "I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas." Although the proto-hippie Ann spent her formative teen years in Seattle, the storyline always places her in Kansas.

Obama and his operatives would invest enormous political capital in what sympathetic biographer David Remnick calls his "signature appeal: the use of the details of his own life as a reflection of a kind of multicultural ideal." From the beginning, they worked hard to protect the investment and did what they had to do to keep the storytellers in line.

Abercrombie may not have gotten the memo. Although the president was likely born in the United States, he may not have been born in Hawaii, he may not have been born in August 1961, he may not have been the son of Barack Sr., or he may have simply been listed as "white" on his birth certificate.

The truth is that the storied little family never lived together. Any fact that blew the storyline could have derailed Obama's candidacy before it got going. Expect the Abercrombie fuss to just sort of fade away.

[bvw]

The source, Stanley Ann’s classmate, Susan Blake, remembered Stanley Ann arriving in Seattle in late August 1961. Her comments were made on a video that has since been stripped from the internet, but enough comments have been made by folks who watched the video when it was available to adequately validate the late August 1961 statement, imo.

[justiceseeker93]

It's quite clever how [Stanley Ann Dunham's] biographers have glossed over her transition from from Washington State to University of Hawaii - at some point she left WSU ans ended up at UH, but no ones to tell us when anymore.

No one, to the best of my knowledge, has ever said that Stanley Ann Dunham ever attended Washington State, only the University of Washington (at Seattle). As far as the timing of her transition is concerned, I specifically recall seeing her transcripts from both the U. of Washington and the U. of Hawaii posted on the Internet, most likely as part of World Net Daily articles.

[bvw]

Freeper ameagle seems to have suggested the home for unwed mothers theory here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2040486/posts?page=1962#1962

ameagle’s last post was 12/24/2008.

Which reminds me: On the “missing page” of the Dunham-Obama divorce papers, of which an image was posted today, it may be that Obama Senior dated his receipt of the divorce papers using mm/dd/yy format. That’s an American format. Kenyans use either “dd month yyyy” or “dd/mm/yy”. In any case since Senior had by that time studied for years in the States he may have learned and applied the American convention for dates.

[hennie pennie]

Thank you!

Do you happen to know if Susan's video interview available at UTube?

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=107889

the transcript shows start date August 19.

[Fred Nerks]

The Susan Blake video has long been removed, but there’s a short snip of it on this site:

http://seattlest.com/2008/01/30/obamas_mixed_an.php

[bvw]

Susan Blake interview about Stanley Ann Dunham. Susan’s exact words place the visit with the new mother on a “late August afternoon”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=advfrQEeIBY

[bvw]

link to image of missing page: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2651213/posts?page=10#10

[bvw]

Students do get into a class some weeks late at times, but the video of Susan Blake says “late August”. It’s crazy. Starting a college away from home with a new born babe-in-arms and no husband with you? NOTHING about Obama’s birth legend makes much sense.

[curiosity]

Late August means she travelled to Seattle 3-4 weeks after the birth. That still leaves enough time to attend a party or two with her lefty friends.

[bvw]

Late August could include the 16th — I think that was the day before the start of classes. So we are talking a range of 11 days to 26 days from the purported birth date of 4 August.

Do you know why Stanley insisted on attending UW rather than UH? I mean she already was enrolled in the Hawaiian college. Why the switch? Obama Senior STAYED in Hawaii for another year.

This behavior doesn’t make too much sense, I mean in a common sense way.

Clearly Obama Senior was a babe magnet. Maybe she left because she couldn’t stand him catting around?

Maybe Stanley Ann was a young girl caught up in a madness of eros imagination? I know from cases known to me of how powerful the fantasies of young woman stalkers are. There are many cases where they come to believe their own imagination! They imagine they are married. Look at David Letterman’s history with stalkers.

[muawiyah]

Excuse me, U of W, not W S ~ a mistake easily made by folks more in tune with the Big Ten.

I often think of Saddle as something like a REAL "flyover area" ~ but way out on the end of everything ~ Boston has the same problem.

[muawiyah]

You already know with this Obama Crowd you need sworn statements from living people ~ pictures of documents just don’t cut it, and particularly so if Stanley Ann was working for the company ~ then nothing can be believed.

[LucyT]

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Ping.

No one, to the best of my knowledge, has ever said that Stanley Ann Dunham ever attended Washington State, only the University of Washington (at Seattle). As far as the timing of her transition is concerned, I specifically recall seeing her transcripts from both the U. of Washington and the U. of Hawaii posted on the Internet.

This is Important. - Check out the contradiction.

Thanks, justiceseeker93.

[Fred Nerks]

Official Obama nativity story continues to unravel Girlfriend places mother in Seattle in August 1961

Posted: September 01, 2009 8:25 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi © 2010 WorldNetDaily

WND has found new evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham, President Obama's mother, was in Seattle in August 1961, within days of her son's birth, contrary to the accepted narrative.

In a video that has been removed from the Internet since the 2008 presidential campaign, Susan Blake, a high school friend of Obama's mother, gave an interview in which she discussed seeing Dunham shortly after Barack Obama Jr.'s Aug. 4, 1961, birth.

The video can be seen here: VIDEO REMOVED

Blake explains in the video that Dunham visited her in Seattle in a "late August afternoon" when Barack Obama Jr. was only "a few weeks old."

Blake tells how she showed Dunham, an evidently inexperienced mother, how to change the baby's diaper.

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The Blake video presents additional evidence that conflicts with the birth story presented by Barack Obama in his autobiography "Dreams from My Father."

In the book, Obama quotes his mother indicating Barack Obama Sr. decided to abandon them in Hawaii because Harvard University did not provide sufficient funds for him to take his family. Obama's father began studies in Cambridge, Mass., in September 1962.

On page 126, Obama has his mother saying, "When your father graduated from UH (University of Hawaii), he received two scholarship offers. One was to the New School, here in New York. The other was to Harvard. The New School agreed to pay for everything – room and board, a job on campus, enough to support all three of us. Harvard just agreed to pay tuition. But Barack was such a stubborn b------, he had to go to Harvard. How can I refuse the best education? He told me. That’s all he could think about, proving that he was the best. ..." (Story continues below)

Evidence presented by WND shows Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own apartment in Hawaii, even after Barack Obama Jr. was born, raising doubts that the parents ever lived together as a married couple.

Moreover, documentary evidence establishes Dunham abandoned Barack Obama Sr. in Hawaii and moved to Seattle, where she was enrolled for extension classes at the University of Seattle only 15 days after reportedly delivering her first-born child in Honolulu.

WND has obtained additional documentation from the University of Washington that the summer 1961 schedule ended Aug. 18, 1961, a day before Dunham began extension classes.

University of Washington, Summer Schedule 1961, obtained from University of Washington Libraries, Special Collections

The University of Washington's 1961 summer schedule coincides with Dunham's college grade transcript, which indicates she began taking extension courses at the university Aug. 19, 1961.

The University of Washington calendar for the fall quarter 1961, for which Dunham was enrolled, indicates classes at the university began Sept. 25, 1961.

University of Washington, Fall Schedule 1961, obtained from University of Washington Libraries, Special Collections

The University of Washington registrar's office told WND that the extension courses on Ann Dunham's transcript most likely involved a combination of self-study and night classes taken on the university campus.

As WND has also reported, the evidence that Dunham was in Seattle in August 1961 comes from three sources:

The public records division of the University of Washington has e-mailed WND that: "Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham was enrolled at the University of Washington for: Autumn 1961, Winter 1962, Spring 1962"

Mary Toutonghi, the babysitter for Barack Obama Jr., told WND that she babysat for Obama when he was 7-months old (around February/March 1962) and Dunham was attending night classes at the University of Washington that started around 4:30 p.m.

The Polk 1961-1962 directory listed Dunham at a Capitol Hill address in Seattle.

Ann Dunham's residence in Seattle, 1961 (Washington State Archives, Puget Sound Branch, King County Assessor Property Record Card collection)

Toutonghi babysat for Dunham during the two extension school courses listed on the transcript that began Dec. 27, 1961. It's likely that all the extension courses were night classes, because the extension classes listed on the transcript that began Aug. 19, 1961, were the same as the winter classes.

Ann Obama residence listing in Polk Directory

A spokesman for Polk City Directories in Livonia, Mich., told WND it was likely the 1961 – 1962 Polk Directory for Seattle was published no later than September 1962, with the exact date Dunham moved into 516 13th Avenue E. impossible to determine from the directory...

SOURCE

[Fred Nerks]

WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IS - WHO WAS ANNA OBAMA?

This 1961-1962 edition of the commercial Polk Directory, located at the Seattle Public Library, lists the precise address where a woman named "Anna Obama" lived on Seattle's Capitol Hill. (Mónica Guzmán/Seattle P-I)

In the 1961-1962 Polk Directory, a commercial index of people and businesses in Seattle, there is a listing for a student named "Anna Obama," a woman who just might have been our next president's mother.

According to a Seattle Times article published last year, Barack Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, twice lived in the Emerald City. First in her youth, as a student at Mercer Island High School. Then later as a single mother, when she enrolled for a spring semester at the University of Washington. We know she lived for a short time in an apartment on Capitol Hill by 1962 -- but not much has been published about where.

Enter the Polk Directory. Assuming the woman listed there really was Obama's mother, it would appear that she -- and quite possibly her infant son -- lived in a building then located at 516 13th Ave. E.

A student listed as "Anna Obama" lived in this building on Capitol Hill. (Washington State Archives, Puget Sound Branch, King County Assessor Property Record Card collection)

One detail puts that assumption in doubt. Obama's mother's name was Stanley Ann Dunham -- Stanley Ann Obama after she married Obama's father. Yet the index lists an "Anna." It is possible this was another woman, archival experts said. But typos were not unheard of in the Polk directories, archival experts told me. Besides, the Polk Directory is not a legal document; those listed did not have to give their official name.

What's more: No other Obamas appear in the 1961-1962 directory, and a peek through the surrounding 1960 and 1963 editions of the index turn up no one by that name. That suggests that the appearance of "Anna Obama" in Seattle, whoever she was, at least fits the biography of Stanley Ann Dunham.

"I think that it's a lead that's worth following," said Mike Saunders, regional archivist at the Puget Sound Branch of the Washington State Archives. "But it should be verified with the family."

The Polk Directory is available to the public in the Seattle Room of the Seattle Public Library. But only two inquiries about this listing have been made to the Puget Sound archives, which holds the 1937 photo of the building listed as Anna Obama's address. One was mine.

P.S. -- Credit for this find should go first to Capitol Hill resident Charlette LeFevre, who helps run Seattle's Museum of the Mysteries on Broadway. A couple weeks ago, LeFevre posted on a Capitol Hill discussion board suggesting she might track down this mysterious Capitol Hill residence. Then, on Jan. 9, she published her discovery of the Polk Directory listing -- plus the 1937 photo of the building where Obama reportedly lived -- in a Jan. 9 article in the Capitol Hill Times.

Considering the possibility that we might track down the location where Barack Obama spent a few of his first months, Justin Carder of the Capitol Hill Seattle blog wrote:

I'm interested to know more about this short period in Obama's life, if for no other reason, because it will be cool to have another interesting place of history on Capitol Hill to wander by and wonder what if. What if Ann Dunham had made it work here? Could this Capitol Hill have created a president?

Update, Jan. 15: As Playboy Buddy pointed out in the comments, a Seattle Weekly article published Oct. 21 mentions Stanley Ann Dunham's 1960s stay in Seattle but also says her son, Barack Obama, did not live with her and was already staying with parents in Hawaii. Don't know how the Weekly knows that. The Times article did not clarify the detail. From the Weekly:

Meanwhile, Obama's mother, whose parents Madelyn and Stanley Dunham had moved here from Kansas a decade earlier, left Mercer Island in 1960. But she returned to live in Seattle around 1962, after Barack was born in August 1961, leaving her husband, Kenya-born Barack Sr., and his newborn namesake in Hawaii. She lived on Capitol Hill and enrolled at the University of Washington.

Posted by Monica Guzman at January 14, 2009 5:12 p.m.

[hennie pennie]

*ping*

[LucyT]

*Ping.

Official Obama nativity story continues to unravel. - Girlfriend places mother in Seattle in August 1961

[snip]

The Blake video presents additional evidence that conflicts with the birth story presented by Barack 0bama in his autobiography "Dreams from My Father."

. . . . Hate to ping to the same thread umpty-ump times, but check out # 175.

Thanks, Fred Nerks.

[LucyT]

. . . . # 176 , too.

[little jeremiah]

IIRC (and I haven’t read everything on this thread yet, no time...) that “missing” page has been seen before, and I don’t think 0bama Sr signed it. And the Kenyan method of dating was discussed and figured out when the two purported Kenyan BCs surfaced. Kenya apparently did it both ways (dating).

Hopefully if I”m wrong someone will pipe up.

Could you send me a link to the “missing page”? I saw something yesterday posted and it looked just like part of the papers that were posted a lont time ago; a mailing receipt showing that the divorce papers had an attempted delivery.