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Will Obama Silence Blundering Abercrombie?(Hawaii's 'Progressive' Gov./Certifigate)
American Thinker ^ | January 3, 2011 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 01/03/2011 2:35:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

For reasons clear to no one just yet, Hawaii's new Democrat governor, Neil Abercrombie, has gone public with his desire to silence the so-called "birthers" with proof of Barack Obama's Hawaiian birth.

"Maybe I'm the only one in the country," Abercrombie told the Los Angeles Times just before Christmas, "that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, 'I was here when that baby was born.'"

A few days later, Abercrombie clarified to Mark Niesse of the Associated Press that he didn't exactly see Obama's parents with their newborn son at the hospital, but that he "remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events."

Although the major media have questioned why Abercrombie would raise an issue that, according to the Los Angeles Times, "most people see as resolved," they take Abercrombie at his word as to what he knows about the young Obama family.

They shouldn't. Abercrombie's boasts about his relationship with the president's presumed parents, Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham, have got to unnerve the president and his close advisors. They know something the media perversely choose not to know: Abercrombie is remembering a past that never happened.

A member of the House's progressive caucus before his election as governor, Abercrombie has been talking excitedly about the relationship for years, playing John the Baptist to Obama's Jesus.

"Little Barry, that's what we called him," Abercrombie told the Chicago Tribune while "recalling his days with Obama Sr. and his future wife, Ann Dunham, at the University of Hawaii." If Obama were born on August 4, 1961, however, there could not have been many such days.

As is thoroughly documented, Ann and little Barry were in Seattle two weeks later, where she enrolled at the University of Washington. By the time she returned to Hawaii in late summer or fall 1962, Barack Sr. had left for Harvard for good.

Citing Abercrombie as source, a 2007 Hawaii TV news report claimed that Ann "became estranged from her husband, Barack Obama[,] Sr., after his departure for Harvard." I don't know about Hawaii, but in Missouri, if you flee your husband with baby in tow two weeks after his birth, that qualifies as "estrangement."

According to divorce papers filed in 1964, Barack Sr. and Ann married in Wailuku, Maui on February 2, 1961. But one has to wonder whether it was a marriage in anything but name, or whether there was a marriage at all. Obama himself writes in Dreams, "In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I've never quite had the courage to explore."

No one attended the wedding -- not Abercrombie, not Ann's parents. In fact, no one in Barack Sr.'s clique seemed to know there was a relationship, let alone a wedding. Neil's brother Hal never saw Ann and Barack Sr. together. Another clique member, Pake Zane, who had distinct memories of Barack Sr., could not recall Ann at all. When Neil Abercrombie and Zane visited their friend in Nairobi in 1968, Barack Sr. shocked them by never once inquiring about his putative wife and 6-year-old son.

The 17-year-old Ann had met the 24 year-old Barack Sr. in Russian class at the University of Hawaii. Why they were studying Russian (in 1960, people like Lee Harvey Oswald studied Russian) is a question for another day. In Dreams, Ann provides only the sketchiest detail of their first date -- Barack Sr. came an hour late and with friends -- and nothing more.

A high school friend of Ann's claims to have received a letter or two from Ann in which she spoke about Barack Sr., and there is no reason to doubt her. But beyond this, there is no evidence of a relationship, and the only evidence for the marriage are the divorce papers, which are real and have been posted online.

One reason people marry in a county other than their own -- Maui County, for instance -- is to keep the announcement of the marriage license out of the local paper. By claiming a Maui wedding, and perhaps even attaining a Maui license, the Dunhams could have assured the baby an identity without drawing attention to the relationship.

If Obama had, in fact, been born out of wedlock, or if his father had been someone other than Barack Sr., that would not have affected Obama's eligibility for higher office, but it would have surely de-glamorized him. "Barry Dunham" does not exactly tease the imagination.

Whatever his contribution, Obama Sr. lent young Barry a name, an identity, and a romantic storyline. Obama's mother and grandparents sustained this narrative throughout Obama's childhood.

Barack Obama repeated this story in his memoir Dreams from My Father, and to good effect. When Obama hooked up with campaign guru David Axelrod in his 2004 race for the U.S. Senate, his story crystallized into a marketing strategy. In the retelling, little Barry is always two years old when Barack Sr. reluctantly leaves wife and son for Harvard. This is a lie.

Guided by Axelrod, Obama held off in his breakthrough keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic convention for all of 46 words -- including "Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much" -- before sharing his story with the world.

At the 2008 Democratic Convention in Denver, Obama leaped into the story in the very first sentence. "Four years ago," he began, "I stood before you and told you my story -- of the brief union between a young man from Kenya and a young woman from Kansas who weren't well-off or well-known, but shared a belief that in America, their son could achieve whatever he put his mind to."

In between the two convention speeches, the story of Obama's birth was told more often than that of anyone's since Jesus. No one, of course, told it as convincingly as Obama himself, especially in his game-saving Philadelphia speech, immodestly titled "A More Perfect Union."

In this speech, delivered to negate the baleful impact of the Jeremiah Wright videos, Obama attributed his faith in the American people to his "own American story." He reminded those few registered voters who might somehow have forgotten that "I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas." Although the proto-hippie Ann spent her formative teen years in Seattle, the storyline always places her in Kansas.

Obama and his operatives would invest enormous political capital in what sympathetic biographer David Remnick calls his "signature appeal: the use of the details of his own life as a reflection of a kind of multicultural ideal." From the beginning, they worked hard to protect the investment and did what they had to do to keep the storytellers in line.

Abercrombie may not have gotten the memo. Although the president was likely born in the United States, he may not have been born in Hawaii, he may not have been born in August 1961, he may not have been the son of Barack Sr., or he may have simply been listed as "white" on his birth certificate.

The truth is that the storied little family never lived together. Any fact that blew the storyline could have derailed Obama's candidacy before it got going. Expect the Abercrombie fuss to just sort of fade away.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: abercrombie; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; democrats; hawaii; kenyabelieveit; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: muawiyah; LucyT; STARWISE; onyx; little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; bgill; The Comedian
O.M.G.

*ping* to 136 !!!
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Just..... W@W.....

141 posted on 01/04/2011 12:42:00 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: muawiyah

That’s all things considered territory.


142 posted on 01/04/2011 12:42:42 PM PST by bvw
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To: muawiyah
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"I had to clean it up. I remember every detail. I hate that woman." <<<<

Definitely, the.... POST of the Year to Date!!!

lol @ muawiyah!!!

143 posted on 01/04/2011 12:45:29 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: muawiyah

Do your meds need adjusting?


144 posted on 01/04/2011 12:47:22 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I myself gave up cheap wine for many years afterward.


145 posted on 01/04/2011 1:13:56 PM PST by muawiyah (Hey,)
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To: hennie pennie
Source.. ?? !!!!!!!

So you don't have one. Thought so.

You ain't heard THAT before?

Yes, I've heard it, but like many birther rumors, I've never seen it substantiated.

To date, I have yet to see any credible source placing her in Seattle two weeks after Bambi's birth. That includes the link you provided. Yes, I know she was in Seattle for the Fall quarter of 1961 at the U of W, but that only means she had to be in Seattle seven weeks after Bambi's birth, not two weeks.

Seven weeks leaves her plenty of time to take him to social events in Hawaii, as the governor claims.

146 posted on 01/04/2011 1:14:12 PM PST by curiosity
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To: hennie pennie
Fascinating. Thanks for the ping darlin'!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

147 posted on 01/04/2011 1:16:58 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: curiosity
I'll have to go back again and re-read the entire article, I thought Governor Abercrombie said 'LITTLE BOY' - that's not how most would refer to a newborn infant.
148 posted on 01/04/2011 1:17:42 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: curiosity
I've seen the news article quoting that friend of Ann's many times --- I suggest that if you are soooooo terribly concerned that you get on over to google and do some research.
149 posted on 01/04/2011 1:19:59 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: danamco
>>>> "He's just an old troll aka "AFTER-BIRTHER." See his about page, hmmm!!!" <<<<

Thanks for the heads up, now I understand whatcha mean! :)

150 posted on 01/04/2011 1:24:14 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: muawiyah

You lost me, bro! I don’t understand how the serial murderer, Ted Bundy, and barry the bastard’s mother are coonected. Were you doing a ‘stream of consciousness’ thingy or something?


151 posted on 01/04/2011 1:25:37 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

He stated that BOTH Stanley Ann Dunham and Ted Bundy attended the University of Washington AT THE SAME TIME and were studying very similar subjects so MIGHT have have been the same or very similar classes, and that he suspects that they knew eachother.


152 posted on 01/04/2011 1:35:16 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: wintertime
Stanley Ann's so-called “friend”, and her bogus story about Stanley Ann being unable to change a diaper, is a great big pile of Marxist, Alinsky, DemocRAT baby poop!

And what says Obama was delivered in a hospital?

153 posted on 01/04/2011 1:39:12 PM PST by bvw
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To: muawiyah; hennie pennie; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks; ...
Ping.

I don't think Bill or Hillary Clinton ever met 0bama's mother. Now that's downright unusual ~ I met her.

Really!?!

Thanks, hennie pennie.

154 posted on 01/04/2011 1:40:19 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

http://watchdog.org/7752/obama-run-in-2012-may-cause-boom-in-birth-certificate-requests/


155 posted on 01/04/2011 1:48:16 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: hennie pennie

I still don’t see how that is relevant to barry the bastard’s life.


156 posted on 01/04/2011 1:50:29 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

LOLOL


157 posted on 01/04/2011 1:52:23 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
The only court that might take this up may be the court of public opinion and until the right wing media grows a spine,
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Earthworms have more courage than the so-called “conservative” media.

I just went through the posts on the daily Rush Limbaugh Show thread. It seems that Rush said nothing about Obama’s eligibility. Why am I **NOT** surprised.

158 posted on 01/04/2011 1:52:45 PM PST by wintertime (Re: Obama, Rush Limbaugh said, "He was born here." ( So? Where's the proof?))
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To: hennie pennie
I believe I was the first internet poster to note Stanley Ann's classmate Susan Blake's diapering comment in Susan's video interview. In that interview Susan placed Stanley Ann and baby Obama's trip to Seattle in late August 1961. IIRC, I mentioned it first on the no longer avaiable Texas Darlin's blog. I repeated it soon thereafter on the long thread at post 1881. That was back on 6 July 2008.
159 posted on 01/04/2011 2:12:43 PM PST by bvw
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To: curiosity

The source, Stanley Ann’s classmate, Susan Blake, remembered Stanley Ann arriving in Seattle in late August 1961. Her comments were made on a video that has since been stripped from the internet, but enough comments have been made by folks who watched the video when it was available to adequately validate the late August 1961 statement, imo.


160 posted on 01/04/2011 2:16:43 PM PST by bvw
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