I just believe that the Constitution requires that the judiciary interpret and apply the Constitution. I don’t want some SOS who has no clue about the Constitution or the issues involved making these decisions. Roger Calero was known to not be a US citizen and made it past the SOS in several states. I’ve spoken to my own SOS. He’s Republican and I wouldn’t trust him as far as I can throw him.
The job of the SOS should be secretarial - to document what the facts of the case are. The judiciary should decide what “natural born citizen” means. Unless and until they do that, the Constitution is only guarded by people elected because they know how to make copies and count, not because they know anything about the Constitution.
The point of this bill is to provide a framework where the courts interpret the Constitution. If the courts - eventually SCOTUS, I’m sure - say that 2 citizen parents aren’t necessary then that would be the definition we would live under unless and until a Constitutional amendment was ratified saying otherwise. If they say 2 citizen parents are necessary then that’s what we would live under. But they are the ones the Constitution authorizes to interpret the Constitution. This bill would just set it squarely in their laps where they CAN’T keep evading it even when there’s a Constitutional crisis at hand.
I have read Arizona’s law regarding how their ballots are supposed to be set up and that is eye-glazing language.
Do you think the legislators would understand the need for detail if they had any idea why these steps are necessary?
For instance, the NJ SOS was required by state law to “verify eligibility”, and Roger Calero still made it on the ballot - and the courts refused to let anybody have standing to sue that breach of the law. If New Jersey had a law requiring that the SOS see Calero’s BC it would not have changed a thing. The SOS can still say, “So what?” and ignore everything. The courts seem to hold this idea that unless the state law mandates a detailed, specific procedure, the broad ideas aren’t enforceable because the SOS can decide what to do anyway, and it doesn’t have to fit with the big picture at all.
Even though the NJ SOS is required to “verify eligibility” there are lawyers who argue that the SOS would not have authority to request a BC for somebody, because the law didn’t specifically require them to do that exact step. If the law had required a BC but didn’t require them to look at place of birth on the BC those same lawyers could say the SOS couldn’t disqualify a Calero on the basis of a foreign birth. Etc ad nauseum. If the detail isn’t mandated there will be lawyers saying the SOS isn’t authorized to do anything about it.
TX legislators need to be aware that just requiring the SOS to look at a BC does nothing toward forcing the SOS to use logic OR lawful definitions to decide whether that BC disqualifies somebody like Calero anyway. If the SOS wants to screw the whole country just showing a BC is not going to stop them, or enable anybody to sue them if they “interpret” the Constitution irrationally.
I don’t think that eligibility laws should really be about Obama, but the Obama situation has REALLY exposed the vulnerabilities. State lawmakers need to know the crap we “birthers” have been through so they can see the lawlessness and see how very, very detailed the legal language has to be in order to even put a dent in the huge loopholes - since courts only hold the bureaucrats to the exact, expressed letter of the law.
I understand the eye-glazing thing, having looked at a lot of laws that bore me to tears. But if state legislators aren’t willing to find out what would be effective then they may end up applying a bandaid to a severed carotid. That’s not what we need when the nation is in peril. Texas lawmakers would never have been so lackadaisical if they knew they were fighting the Battle of the Alamo. Well, this is an even more lethal battle than the Alamo.
If they knew what was at stake I don’t think they would let us down. Texans have bigger balls than that. They’re smarter than that.
Am I thinking too highly of them?
“It appears that you subscribe to the 2 citizen-parent theory”
It is not a theory.
Two parents who are citizens, is where Barack Obama fails the qualification process. He is British and American, and therefore could never have been a Natural Born Citizen! That is not exactly something which should be skipped. Two parents who are citizens makes a Natural Born Citizen. Only one American parent might get you citizenship, but it isn’t NBC and never can be unless you have two citizen parents, and are born on our soil.
There is a difference and it does matter.
Well it was taught as fact during social studies, back when I was in grade school in the 60s.
That's about the same time Barry Steve Dunham Hussein Soetoro Sobarkah was learning how to be a good little moslem/communist.