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Democrats Force ‘Birther’ Issue to Rise Again: What Gives?
Pajamas Media ^ | December 29, 2010 | Kyle-Anne Shiver

Posted on 12/30/2010 9:24:48 AM PST by Kaslin

I believe that the president was born in Hawaii. But am I the only curious cat who thinks it's rather odd for that state's newly-elected governor, plus Chris Matthews of MSNBC, both liberal Democrats, to have just forced the "Birther" issue to rise again?

Am I the only curious cat in America who thinks it rather odd that the newly elected governor of Hawaii — a liberal Democrat — has just forced the “Birther” issue to rise again?

Not only has Hawaii’s governor-elect, Neil Abercrombie, just announced that he is on a mission to bury the “Birther” issue, but Chris “Obama-sends-a-tingle-up-my-leg” Matthews now wants to know why President Obama doesn’t release the darned document and put this relentlessly pursuing ghost to rest once and for all.

If Abercrombie and Matthews were utterly desperate Republican operatives, hog-tied to a sinking political ship, I might understand the newly reincarnated brouhaha. But both these men are as-liberal-as-liberal-gets Democrats. And Republicans, at this juncture, are anything but desperate. They are set to begin the 112th Congress with the clout of a mid-term election landslide not seen since 1938.

So, what on earth would motivate a governor-elect with more real problems than any sane man would want on his plate to go fiddling around in an issue which for all intents and purposes is as dead as a doornail?

It simply makes no sense in the real world, where real unemployment still hovers at double-digits, where the president is about to face a real hostile Congress, and in an atmosphere where the season’s holly- jolly spirit is about to melt faster than snow on the ground in Atlanta.

If you ask me, this folderol of reincarnating the “Birther” issue by two prominent liberal Democrats just smacks of orchestrated political psy-ops. Hoping to get a prominent and public rise out of Republicans and/or conservative pundits, these two utterly loyal-to-the-president guys — Abercrombie and Matthews — are simply creating a diversion in the hopes that their party can regain some of the traction it’s lost over the past 2 years.

Now, I’ve never fit the standard, press-defined definition of a “Birther.” I do believe that the president was born in Hawaii. I’ve written only one column on the “Birther” controversy and that was back in August 2009. As I opined back then, the whole controversy has legs because of the complete dearth of documentation regarding this president. No presidential candidate of the past 30 years has been permitted the level of secrecy and non-disclosure that President Obama received.

To date the following are all undisclosed:

1) 1961 long-form, original, signed birth certificate
2) Marriage license between Obama’s father (Barak Sr.) and mother (Stanley Ann Dunham) — not found, not released
3) Obama’s baptism records — sealed

4) Obama’s adoption records — sealed
5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s repatriation as U.S. citizens on return from Indonesia — not found, not released
6) Name change (Barry Sotero to Barack Hussein Obama) records — not found, not released
7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) — not released

8 ) Punahou School financial aid or school records — not released
9) Occidental College financial aid records — not released.
10) Columbia College records — not released
11) Columbia senior thesis — not released
12) Harvard Law School records — not released

13) Obama’s law client list — sealed
14) Obama’s files from career as an Illinois state senator — sealed
15) Obama’s record with Illinois State Bar Association — sealed
16) Obama’s medical records — not released

17) Obama’s passport records — not released

In my opinion — as a civics-minded citizen — Obama’s as yet unreleased original long-form birth certificate from the state of Hawaii is merely the tip of a mysterious iceberg when it comes to the 44th president of the United States. Any journalist worth an ounce of salt would be curious as to why any presidential candidate would conceal nearly every documented item from his own past. Obviously, America does not have many remaining curious journalists.

For the entire campaign season of ’07-’08, the nation witnessed hordes of “journalists” hot on the trail of Sarah Palin’s wardrobe costs, her final pregnancy and childbirth, and her unwed daughter’s pregnancy. We American voters were privy in ‘08 to seeing the complete, suicidal destruction of a once-heralded media enterprise. Rather than take the responsible position of delving into the very, very important and pertinent non-disclosures of a presidential candidate, these media buffoons chose to lampoon the lady from Alaska with adolescent-styled mischief. The campaign coverage was so bad, so childish, so without real substance that on election day, voters still knew next to nothing of substance about the man who would be their next president.

Which brings us back to the original question as to why on earth the Democrat duo of Abercrombie and Matthews would want to raise the all-but-dead “Birther” issue. The country has beyond-huge problems on its plate and Obama has two years to go before his reelection bid.

As much as I detest Chris Matthews, he makes a very salient point, when he asks why on earth the president hasn’t just released the darned document. Barack Obama has been the defendant in more than a dozen eligibility lawsuits since 2008. He has employed legal counsel to answer every one of them; lawyers do not serve free for millionaires like Obama. The cost of supplying the long-form, original birth certificate, which has been said by many officials to be on file in Hawaii, is approximately $15. No matter how one does arithmetic, $15 is bound to be less than Obama has paid lawyers to prevent the release of said document.

Now, we have the governor-elect of Hawaii saying that he will take pains to have state law revised which will enable him to legally release “certain details” contained on the original birth certificate — presumably prior to the 2012 presidential election. It is possible, I suppose, that there are details on that birth certificate which belie the Obama narrative, details that might prove a substantive embarrassment of some sort.

A president elected on the strength of a narrative must protect that narrative at all costs. Abercrombie and Matthews are merely carrying water for the Obama narrative and attempting to divert the public’s attention from more substantive issues, namely the remaining dearth of real background data on the 44th president of the United States.

Journalism certainly isn’t what it used to be. Nor is it even a shade of what it’s supposed to be. Shame is too mild a word.

For all the modern press notables that slam Sarah Palin’s lack of intellectual curiosity, there isn’t a single American journalist who has demonstrated even a speck of the stuff when it comes to Barack Obama. It’s a purely disgusting state of affairs.


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; chrismatthews; conman; conspiracytheory; naturalborncitizen; neilabercrombie; obama; obamanation
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To: ThunderSleeps
" You may be right. The other thing I was thinking is this: They finally have the ink dry on all their documents and the "package" is ready for public scrutiny. They have their supporting witnesses, people who now suddenly "remember" x, y, or z about hussein etc. They've also tracked down and bought-off or scared-off into silence anyone who could refute the contents of their "package." So now they are ready to make it an issue again, and shortly, with great fanfare, the "package" will be released, the MSM will lap it up... "

This whole plan, scheme will be their own undoing on the fast track because the GOD of Israel will cause the real truth to come out by them trying to fake this whole thing.
This whole charade will only cause the real truth to come out sooner because in the plan, the effort of doing this, GOD will cause some unknown truth, documents, people, to come out finally and reveal the real truth.
61 posted on 12/30/2010 11:10:47 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Retired Intelligence Officer
" I think Albercromie is using this as a means to blackmail the president into giving Hawaii federal funding to get it out of its financial crisis. "

The should be interesting to see, since the Republicans have a majority on the House coming January.....
Republicans ? JUST SAY NO TO BAILING OUT HAWAII !!
62 posted on 12/30/2010 11:17:02 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Kaslin

Another scenario is that Abercrombie is a complete dork whose mouth wrote a check the state and Obama can’t cash.
And Matthews isn’t the brightest bulb either.
Bill O’Reilly bragged that he could find Obama’s long form birth certificate in 5 minutes.
He must be some sort of time traveler.
Abercrombie could be of the same spirit and in his arrogance
and ignorance,
he went way off the reservation.
But, he did legitimize the issue and reminded all Americans
that Obama’s long form birth certificate
has never been made public.
We shall see if any of the fraidy cat talkers on the right have the cojones to finally report this simple fact .
No tin foil hats and breathless conspiracy theories are required to state that the POTUS
has a sealed birth certificate.
Dr Jerome Corsi had a great line when he made one of his many appearances on the Rusty Humphries radio show.
Rusty BTW-is not afraid to allow serious discussions
of the buried birth certificate .
Corsi said he didn’t take mind reading at Harvard so he has no idea what’s on the birth certificate.
That’s a pretty benign stand that all the fraidys could adopt .
Producing the birth certificate now will remind Americans
that he stonewalled for years when members of the US military asked him to make it public.
And raise even more troubling questions and also perhaps open the door for other documents to be made public.
LTC Lakin’s family and the others should hold a press conference at the entrance to Ft Leavenworth ( they won’t get on post )
if Barry suddenly produces something.
I bet Obama and Company hope that the birth certificate situation dies a quiet death when the fraidys return on Jan 3
and resume their usual position of DADT
when it comes to Obama’s birth certificate.
It’s ironic that it was Chris Matthews and not Rush Limbaugh
or Sean Hannity or Glenn Beck
who finally asked why Obama just didn’t release his original birth certificate.


63 posted on 12/30/2010 11:21:47 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Kaslin

The original source of that list:

http://theobamafile.com/_eligibility/BonaFides.htm


64 posted on 12/30/2010 11:38:10 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: ckilmer


MENE MENE TEKEL UPHARSIN !

The invisible hand of the GOD of Israel is in this...
For the Saints of GOD are praying...
Obama can't out scam the GOD of Israel, for the GOD of Israel is a better Chess master than Obama....
The government can't take our faith, and stop us from praying.. Pharaoh learned that lesson thousands of years ago.
65 posted on 12/30/2010 11:38:41 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: tophat9000

The Hawaii Governor should just release the long form. If it says what the gov says and zero was born in Hawaii, what harm is there (jesus, the dems leak fbi files on anyone when they are in charge, you want me to believe that they timid to release good information because the law says not to)?

If it says that zero was born there, who thinks zero sues Hawaii for releasing and breaking the privacy law?

And why can’t a Republican the state department release his passport? Christ, why is it that the dems are better at releasing damaging confidential information than we are. Paging deep throat 2 to release the passport showing his birth city outside the USA.


66 posted on 12/30/2010 11:40:05 AM PST by Huskerscott
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To: ckilmer

“they will introduce legislation to make it mandatory that every presidential candidate present a valid birth certificate.”

One can only hope! It would need to happen soon because I am sure it would end up in the courts and that might take Obami well past the next election.

Mel


67 posted on 12/30/2010 11:44:17 AM PST by melsec
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To: Gargantua
" They overlooked something, and if they are allowed or encouraged to proceed with this charade, it is going to blow up in their faces. Just my considered opinion. "

BINGO !!!!

They have over looked or not aware of many things .....

Remember, Obama can't out maneuver the GOD of Israel, for the GOD of Israel is a better Chess master than Obama.....
This new charade by Obama and his ThugGang will be their own undoing....

Ohh yeah ? and another thing ?
The persecution, all the things they say about us birthers ?
REJOYICE ! BE GLAD ! WE NEED TO THANK THEM !!

The early church thrived because of the persecution of Rome...

PEACE OUT MAN, WE ARE FEELING THE LOVE BY THE OBOTS, BIG SIS JANET, THE MSM, OBAMA'S THUGGANG, ...... THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU !!! keep it up, it's working, this issue of Obama's eligibility is just growing....
68 posted on 12/30/2010 11:54:56 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Free Per the Constitution
" These guys know that the states are going to start passing laws requiring obama to show his birth certificate before the next election. So it seems to me that they are trying to completely squash this controversy before the next election cycle begins. "

Rome tried to do just that with the early church, and you see what good it did them.... The church is still here today, ROME ? ....
69 posted on 12/30/2010 11:58:55 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: EDINVA

The first “law “ book used by the U.S. Supreme Court was Vatell’s Law of Nations. John Jay ,first Supreme Court chief Justice strongly supported the Vatell’s definition of Natural Born.

CHILDREN OF CITIZENS SHALL BE CONSIDERED NATURAL BORN.
Citizen(s) means both parents.


70 posted on 12/30/2010 12:02:03 PM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: EDINVA
" Allegedly, Abercrombie was friends with Ann Dunham and BHO, Sr. when they were students, and saw them with the baby during those days. Yet, her friends claim she was in WA within weeks of the birth, Sr went off to MA, and they were divorced within two years. "

To much pot smoking has dulled his lying abilities for poor old Neil....
71 posted on 12/30/2010 12:02:24 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Huskerscott

The Hawaii Governor should just release the long form. If it says what the gov says and zero was born in Hawaii, what harm is there (jesus, the dems leak fbi files on anyone when they are in charge, you want me to believe that they timid to release good information because the law says not to)?

If it says that zero was born there, who thinks zero sues Hawaii for releasing and breaking the privacy law?

And why can’t a Republican the state department release his passport? Christ, why is it that the dems are better at releasing damaging confidential information than we are. Paging deep throat 2 to release the passport showing his birth city outside the USA.


The Obama administration released his passport. You can see it on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvqgyV_2pHg

What is strange to me about all the interest in Obama’s long form is that there is no additional information recorded on a 1961 Hawaii long form that is relevant to whether anyone is eligible to be president of the United States or not. The long form adds hospital name, doctor’s name and signature, parents’ race, parents’ occupations and parents’ birth places to what is already available on a short form.
The answers to none of those additional questions clarify Obama’s eligibility.


72 posted on 12/30/2010 12:11:25 PM PST by jamese777
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To: maggief
" However, Neil Abercrombie, the Democratic congressman from Hawaii, was part of those regular gatherings and claims that Anna was “the original feminist.” Abercrombie says he remembered her appearing at some of the weekend gatherings. Obama was such a strong personality, he said, that he could see how the young woman was awed and overwhelmed by him. "

What does he mean that she would " appear " at some of the weekend gatherings ? .... sounds like her appearances were not by accident, more like premeditated, planned, and perhaps she was the guy's entertainment.
How much you want to bet that it was old pot smoking Neil that turned Ann onto Obama Sr... perhaps he was their Cupid ?
73 posted on 12/30/2010 12:13:33 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Kaslin; All
All any single conservative in Congress needs to do is issue the following statement:

"On behalf of all Americans serving in the military, paying taxes, and shouldering the burden of the Federal government, we would like to thank President Obama for his release of his original long form birth certificate, and his full release of his college and passport records. Thank you Mr. President."

And then let the bastard stew in the preemptive thanks for something he has no intention of doing.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

74 posted on 12/30/2010 12:14:22 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Alaphiah123

I agree.

Looks like 2011 will be interesting.

Best regards,

3


75 posted on 12/30/2010 12:22:20 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Red Steel
Good point....
Why now Crissy ? Bill O'Really ? why now ? are you guys asking for the REAL birth certificate when you guys were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO sure of yourselves, that the COLB that you ( Bill O'Really ) said that you saw with your own eyes, and held with your own hands , was the real deal ?
why now ?
are you guy calling for Obama to release the real one ?
you have so major explaining to do... but, we knew it all along, lies, and MORE LIES !!!
Are you guys, Crissy and Bill O'Really going to go on national TV and confess that you lied, or was mistaken and confess and admit that the COLB was faked ? .....
Come on now, it can't be both, how can you say that the COLB is authentic, but, yet ? Crissy Tingle Dingle Legs is calling for Our Dear leader Mao Obama to release his REAL birth certificate....

CRISSY ? BILL O'REALLY ? I tell you what's wrong....

YOU GUYS LIED OR WAS FOOLED AND TOLD A SHAM OF A SCAM TO THE AMERICAN PUBLIC AND NOW YOU HAVE TO GO ON NATION TV AND ADMIT THE TRUTH !!!
76 posted on 12/30/2010 12:28:21 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Red Steel
YEAH CRISSY TINGLE DINGLE LEGS !!
WHAT ABOUT THE COLB !!
IT CAN'T BE AUTHENTIC !!
IT'S FAKED !!
SO CRISSY TINGLE DINGLE LEGS ? WHY ARE YOU CALLING FOR THE REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE ?

Wait ... hold on, let's see here a second, OH YEAH !! BECAUSE YOU LIED TO US !
77 posted on 12/30/2010 12:32:56 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: wideawake
That is probably the most likely scenario.
78 posted on 12/30/2010 12:34:54 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Why now? You are right on what motivates them. They hope to browbeat the issue because if Obama is exposed they get exposed for being wrong and for not truthfully vetting Obama. And they see what we see...4 to 5 states who are ready to pass presidential eligibility laws where the presidential candidates have to prove their natural born citizenship to get on state election ballots. They don’t want that.


79 posted on 12/30/2010 12:40:01 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: American Constitutionalist; FS11; hoosiermama; STARWISE; LucyT

None of this adds up. But, aside from Hal, there seems to be a common link with work and travel in Asia, and The Ford Foundation. (Who financed Neil and Pake?)

Hal, Pake and Neil all had contact with Sr. outside of Hawaii, Hal in SF, Pake and Neil in Kenya. Apparently Sr. didn’t bring up SAD and Jr. during those meetings. Only Neil recalls SAD and Sr. together in Hawaii, and rarely saw SAD outside of the “snack bar” meetings.

Pake and Neil traveled through Africa and Asia, including a six-month stay in India in 1969.

Chester Gorman worked mostly in Southeast Asia, financed in part by The Ford Foundation. (Peter Gilpin is credited with photography in Gorman’s book.)

SAD was employed by The Ford Foundation in Jakarta.

Timothy’s father, Peter Geithner was with The Ford Foundation for 28 years, where he held program management positions mainly concerned with Asia. He was Director of Asia Programs from 1990 to 1996. Prior to assuming that position, he served for two and a half years as the Foundation’s first representative in Beijing, China. His earlier assignments with the Foundation included Program Officer in Charge, Developing Country Programs (New York), Representative for Southeast Asia (Bangkok), Deputy Head, Asia Pacific (New York), and Deputy Representative for India, Nepal, and Sri Lanka (New Delhi).


80 posted on 12/30/2010 12:51:53 PM PST by maggief
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