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Early Eclipse: F-35 JSF Prospects in the Age of Chinese Stealth
China Defense Blog ^ | December 29, 2010

Posted on 12/29/2010 9:37:47 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Early Eclipse: F-35 JSF Prospects in the Age of Chinese Stealth

Much to the chagrin of Lockheed-Martin's JSF team, it appears there really is a new Chinese stealth fighter. And by the looks of it, the Chinese J-20 is a heavyweight contender built to challenge the F-22 Raptor. For the first time since the end of the Cold War, US air dominance seems in question. But where does this leave the F-35 JSF?

JSF is the "one-size-fits-all fighter", good for the US Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps, as well as all interested foreign customers. In an attempt to meet all roles and needs, within an affordable budget, the JSF has necessarily compromised capability in some areas, particularly air-to-air combat. The US Congress and International Customers were told the JSF possessed sufficient air-to-air capability, with Lockheed-Martin claiming a "close and long-range air-to-air capability second only to that of the F-22 Raptor." However, with the sound of the twin-engined Chinese J-20 roaring down the flightline at Chengdu, it appears Lockheed-Martin's claim may have been a bit short-lived.

Many international customers currently invested in the JSF would have preferred purchase of the air-to-air optimized F-22 Raptor, but the US has banned Raptor exports. International buyers were told JSF was the best air-to-air fighter their money could buy. Now facing a likely overmatch against the Chinese J-20, JSF shareholders such as Australia and potential Asian buyers such as Singapore, Japan, South Korea, and of course Taiwan must now be quite soured on the US refusal to sell the F-22.

It seems certain the emergence of the J-20 into the Asian military equation will precipitate a cascade of new fighter procurement in the region. Beyond Australia which has already financially committed to the JSF, the F-35 will most likely not be among the new types sought.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; jsf; navair; stealth
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Money Shot: New Chinese J-20 Stealth Fighter poses for eager onlookers at Chengdu Test Facility

1 posted on 12/29/2010 9:37:53 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Jet Jaguar

What the heck is up with those flaps?

Are they trying to create extreme vectoring?

From what I see, it will shear off almost immediately.


2 posted on 12/29/2010 9:43:09 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How is this possible? china copies russian designs.


3 posted on 12/29/2010 9:43:47 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: sukhoi-30mki
And of course, we know the politically weighed-down F035 albatross looks like:

Flying Anvil

4 posted on 12/29/2010 9:44:59 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Chinese Stealth jet uses Silkspan Wings


5 posted on 12/29/2010 9:45:37 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sounds like the Chinese are trying to encourage Raptor exports.
I’m sure they’d love to get their hands on one.


6 posted on 12/29/2010 9:46:43 PM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: astyanax

>>Sounds like the Chinese are trying to encourage Raptor exports.
I’m sure they’d love to get their hands on one.<<

Despite their suppression, eBay is available in China.


7 posted on 12/29/2010 9:48:59 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: bunkerhill7

Build a better aircraft, but can you produce a better pilot?


8 posted on 12/29/2010 9:53:11 PM PST by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: freedumb2003
"...eBay is available in China."
LOL! Does PayPal handle $100,000,000+ transactions?
9 posted on 12/29/2010 9:54:52 PM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

There is no such thing as one size fits all.

There is a reason the Air Force planes can roll the Navy’s.

Naval planes need more sh*t on their landing gear to be able to sustain the impact of carrier landings. That equals weight.

One size fits all sounds like a marketing angle. Don’t buy it!


10 posted on 12/29/2010 9:56:32 PM PST by occamrzr06
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Reminds me a little bit of the 1980’s era concept model of a MiG-37 fictional Soviet Stealth Bomber/Fighter that Testors put out. It was an analogue to the F-117.


11 posted on 12/29/2010 9:59:56 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Damn the democrats already sold our stealth technology to China..
Kind of hard to have a military with so many traitors present..
What else did they sell them.. submarines and sonar and radar technology?..

Clintoons Chinagate contacts must've come in handy..

12 posted on 12/29/2010 10:03:29 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That thing doesn’t even look like it could get off the ground. If it could, I bet it’d have the turn radius of a refrigerator. Lockheed worried? On the contrary, they’ll probably use this as an example of the Chinese “threat” to sell more Raptors and Lightnings.


13 posted on 12/29/2010 10:03:50 PM PST by DesScorp
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To: Nowhere Man
I remember that! I assumed it was real since Testors produced a plastic model.

http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/TESTORS%20F-19%20STEALTH%20PAGE.htm

14 posted on 12/29/2010 10:24:29 PM PST by OCC
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To: freedumb2003
>>Sounds like the Chinese are trying to encourage Raptor exports. I’m sure they’d love to get their hands on one.<<

A lot of U.S. pilots would love to get their hands on one. Not likely with Obami the Commie in charge

15 posted on 12/29/2010 10:31:22 PM PST by Prokopton
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Dear Americans,
Thank so much you for to buy Chinese toys. We hope Chrismas hariday was for you happy. We need J-20 for to fly soon. Prease buy more our nice toys.

Rotsa ruck in the new year!
The PLAAF


16 posted on 12/29/2010 10:52:35 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: magslinger

ping


17 posted on 12/29/2010 11:21:19 PM PST by Vroomfondel
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To: Vroomfondel; SC Swamp Fox; Fred Hayek; NY Attitude; P3_Acoustic; investigateworld; lowbuck; ...
SONOBUOY PING!

Click on pic for past Navair pings.

Post or FReepmail me if you wish to be enlisted in or discharged from the Navair Pinglist.
The only requirement for inclusion in the Navair Pinglist is an interest in Naval Aviation.
This is a medium to low volume pinglist.

18 posted on 12/29/2010 11:30:16 PM PST by magslinger (Samuel Colt, feminist. Making women equal to men for over 150 years.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Here's a possibly better picture:


19 posted on 12/30/2010 12:34:26 AM PST by Doug Loss
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To: freedumb2003
What the heck is up with those flaps?

That picture was taken two days after the warranty expired...

20 posted on 12/30/2010 3:18:06 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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