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A Public Employee Union Response
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 12/17/2010 | Phillip Thompson

Posted on 12/17/2010 9:33:26 AM PST by MichCapCon

Recently, the incoming Republican governors in Wisconsin and Ohio have discussed the possibility of eliminating public sector unions (see MichCapCon.com/14188).

One Michigan labor leader shares his thoughts:

Phillip Thompson

Executive Vice President

Michigan Public Employees, SEIU Local 517M

These types of news articles—in Wisconsin as well as the recent WSJ guest editorial from Gov Tim Pawlenty (Minn) which labeled public workers’ Unions as “exploiters”, do little to foster meaningful and productive conversations between elected officials and public workers. It is SEIU’s sincere desire that Governor-elect Snyder takes a much more constructive approach to solving the state’s financial challenges by widening his discussions to include the front line workers—who often know best how to develop efficiencies and cost savings in the delivery of public services to Michigan’s hard-working citizens.

Saying that public workers should not be allowed to have a meaningful voice in their workplace—often through their Unions—is basically telling these workers that their opinions and suggestions have no merit...

(Excerpt) Read more at michigancapitolconfidential.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: unions

1 posted on 12/17/2010 9:33:33 AM PST by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

We need to close our primaries.


2 posted on 12/17/2010 9:35:04 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: MichCapCon
incoming Republican governors in Wisconsin and Ohio have discussed the possibility of eliminating public sector unions

Now yer talkin! That's how you put a stake in the heart of the dems power base.

3 posted on 12/17/2010 9:37:19 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: MichCapCon

public workers, using tax money to lobby for more government funds... what could go wrong?


4 posted on 12/17/2010 9:39:59 AM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you is worse than grabbing your balls)
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To: MichCapCon
is basically telling these workers that their opinions and suggestions have no merit...

Pretty much how Washington DC views the electorate.

5 posted on 12/17/2010 9:42:36 AM PST by The Iceman Cometh (What do Snap-On and Obama have in common? They're both tools.)
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To: Mr. K
Saying that public workers should not be allowed to have a meaningful voice in their workplace—often through their Unions—is basically telling these workers that their opinions and suggestions have no merit...

I've worked both union and non union and I've found the union to be more of a hindrance than anything.

In a union shop you take your ideas to a union steward who files your ideas away in the trash rather than work toward increased efficiency.

In non union shops I've been able to take my ideas directly to the boss. And if they work he considers me for a raise or job advancement based on merit.
6 posted on 12/17/2010 9:47:37 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: MichCapCon

I saw today where Gov McDonnell R(VA) is going for having state employees pay into their own retirement fund.

Remember, the States and Fed used to pay a much lower pay scale than the Private Sector but the benefits were paid vacation, retirement, health care etc which were all part of their salary.
Oh, once one received some sort of tenure etc, the State/Fed employee was virtually untouchable when it came to firings etc.

Now that the Fed and State salaries are up there, and in a lot of cases, above the private sector there is no reason for the non State and non Fed employees to be paying for the ‘guaranteed’ workers retirement etc.


7 posted on 12/17/2010 9:53:30 AM PST by xrmusn ((6/98))
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To: MichCapCon

Oh, I don’t see anything wrong with folks in the public sector joining and creating unions...as long as it is against the law to engage in collective bargaining and strike-type activities. They can get together off duty hours and discuss politics, parties, fundraisers and charities...or whatever. They just can’t be allowed to hold the public hostage or make any demands. Then again, their membership would probably be very small.


8 posted on 12/17/2010 10:12:28 AM PST by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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“is basically telling these workers that their opinions and suggestions have no merit”

In the first place they are not “workers”. They are “paycheck consumers” or “time servers”. Most do no useful function. And so, yes, their opinions and suggestions have no merit.

I know that a small minority of govt employees DO do useful work. The problem is that the worst ones, the biggest brownnosers, get into management. When budgets are reduced the few good workers are let go while the criminal managers keep their buddies on board and still pay themselves their bonuses. Heck, you have govt offices where everyone is a manager with no one to manage but they still get bonuses for “managing”.

Take the USPS. For everyone person delivering mail or working a counter there are 6 people pushing papers and “managing”.

A pension is something someone earns through years of productive activity. Govt employees deserve no pensions.


9 posted on 12/17/2010 10:14:12 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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