They're coming at us from all sides
Posted on 12/02/2010 6:49:03 AM PST by La Lydia
It’s zero hour for the DREAM Act...For two years, Barack Obama failed—or, if you prefer, refused—to nudge along a major immigration bill. The last-ditch hope is that departing Democrats, and a few Republicans, somehow band together in the lame-duck session and pass a law allowing illegal immigrants who came to the United States as minors to gain citizenship. Harry Reid promised to bring up the bill for a Senate cloture vote this week. Republicans vowed to scuttle it...
But as Chicago congressman Luis Gutiérrez prepares for a rally at a church in Brooklyn, the DREAM Act seems like the end of his interest in congressional gamesmanship rather than the start. Gutiérrez is one of several Hispanic leaders who have found themselves politically estranged from the president. Moreover, they are numbed by the legislative process that denied them a vote on immigration reform, much less a victory, when Democrats controlled both houses of Congress...“The opportunity to have gotten it done is gone.”
The DREAM Act, Gutiérrez says, is for now his final legislative maneuver. He’s finished waiting for the mythical 60th vote to materialize in the Senate. No, when the lame duck ends, Gutiérrez and his movement allies will ask for a divorce—from the Democratic Party...To hear Gutiérrez tell it, Hispanic leaders are about to stage a full-tilt campaign of direct action, like the African-American civil-rights movement of the 1960s. There will be protests, marches, sit-ins—what César Chávez might have called going rogue. The movement will operate autonomously, no longer beholden to wavering Democrats, filibustering Republicans, and—perhaps most tantalizingly—no longer beholden to Barack Obama...
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...
So, how do you imagine you’re not part of the problem?
Then you'll get exactly what you deserve if one of them is injured on your property, performing work for you...They'll turn on you like a pit bull with an attitude. Bet the rent.
Interesting development...
So, you’d punish the illegal lawn boy worse than a serial killer.
Inciting people to murder illegals is immoral, and this
ridiculous talk of tatooing them is just nonsense.
Whats wrong with just deporting them and finishing the wall,not bloody enough for the freeper faithful?
Another sell out from Texas?
Going after employers is key to saving America. It's the traitorous greedy employers that are hiring *millions* of these low wage disrespectful criminals...All on the backs of the tax payers, who are now on their knees....
Spit*
The Mexicans from roughly Monterrey northward are generally hardworking, productive and capable of fixing their own backyard.
Those to the south are generally in love with the PRI, socialism and all the freebies they can get. It is reflected in their voting patterns.
The labor and sweat of northern Mexicans has been employed for generations to keep the Kleptocracy afloat. Some northern Mexicans like Calderon think they can keep it afloat longer by expanding the Kleptocracy into the United States.
The truth of the matter is that every Kleptocracy eventually collapses and collapse while, in the short-run, painful is the only long-term solution. Just as you cannot cure a wino by continuing to supply him with booze, you cannot cure a Kleptocracy by continuing to supply them with more pockets to pick.
A Northern Mexican state, divorced of the south, would become a functional first world state within a generation or so. It would then be able to absorb the south much as West Germany absorbed the east.
“I am not for going after the employers.
I mean do you really want to be held responsible if it turns out your lawn guy is an illegal? cause I don’t”
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Well... I cut my own grass. And I dam# sure do want the employers punished. Obviously, you can’t go after every Joe Sixpack who gets his trees trimmed.
But the large institutional offenders in the Restaurant and Hotel industries and others like the Construction trades will HAVE to be warned first and then prosecuted.
I mean c’mon you are a Texan. When you drive by construction sites what do you see? Your going to tell me that all those guys are legal? There’s NO WAY they could all be legal.
These Benedict Arnold employers don’t provide them health insurance and then the illegals go to the ER at Parkland
and YOU end up paying for that. You are subsidizing the
employers profit margin by having to pay for these illegals
benefits by your tax dollars.
It ought to be considered Racketeering and prosecuted under the Federal RICO laws.
Profits regardless of consequences will eventually leave America dead on the floor.
He also knows enough about the culture to tell which type of people are illegal or would give him phony ID. And, yes, he pays a little extra to follow the rules.
These people don't care...They save money by hiring cheap labor, while their cheap labor chokes off our hospitals, Healthcare systems, jails and schools, etc, all on the backs of the tax payers...
Ask Mr. TexasFreeper2009 who is paying for illegal aliens that are dropping 1000 babies per *month* at the Dallas Parkland Hospital...
These greedy AH employers that routinely hire *millions* of illegal aliens and nothing but enemy traitors, directly contributing to the death of America.
Profits regardless of consequences...
This is the best proposal I have seen on the topic.
Unfortunately it has as much chance of coming to fruition as finding Scarlett Johansson cooking my dinner when I go home tonight.
Forgot to add the rank and file members of LaRaza, MEChA, LULAC, the Hispanic Caucus and the hundreds of other Hispanic political, lobbying & social groups.
Which are Hispanics.
It's not what I want, but at this point I think it's guaranteed. Some things just happen.
There are already 42 million Americans on food stamps.
I assume most of them are here legally.
Remember back in 2008 when the media were wetting their pants that Americans on food stamps might climb to 28 million?
The bastards and their Communist regime allies don’t know anything about awakening THE sleeping giant who wouldn’t go back to sleep before taking care of business and OVER COMPENSATING FOR YEARS AFTERWARD!
Some groups will be dirty words for a generation after the fact! They’re cutting their noses to spite their faces.
Some call themselves enlightened intellectuals and don’t learn from or even bother to read history.
What I'm saying.....
As the government routinely holds new citizenship graduation ceremonies in football stadiums and large convention centers....
How stupid are we?
Anybody else tired, I mean just worn-out tired of hearing about whining Latinos?
Give it a break already, jeesh!!
True, but the leaders are paid off and the rank and file are mostly illegals. Do you think that a blue-collar Hispanic citizen has an interest in supporting policies to decrease his own wages?
The truly irritating part of the DREAM act is that it is *half* reasonable.
That is, there are an increasing number of young adults who are technically illegal aliens, but who were raised in the US since infancy. They have no connections to Mexico, they are fully integrated into the US culture, and they speak English fluently, having graduated from elementary and high school, and often college.
If they are given a piece of paper, they are as deserving, or even more deserving, that a large percent of Americans who just happened to be born here. They will be good citizens, pay taxes, work and create jobs for others, etc.
To pitch them back into Mexico would be downright insane and sadistic, as would be taking any other US citizen and forcing them to go to Mexico. They are not Mexicans, they are Americans. It is not their fault, and only a person who is either racist or sick in the head thinks otherwise.
HOWEVER, in about the same proportion as for whites, there is a percentage of them who are serious criminals. There should be absolutely no chance for them to get US citizenship, and they should be deported when captured as soon as it is determined that they don’t have any outstanding criminal warrants for which they need to go to prison.
Nobody in the federal government seems to be intellectually capable of distinguishing between these two groups!
The former group are already integrated, and ready to be good citizens. The latter group we don’t want, at all, no way, no how.
So even before a much different DREAM act is ever passed, and if well rewritten by the Republicans, it might be, the priority, A number 1, should be to expel as many of the bad illegal aliens as possible.
If they are being held on misdemeanor charges, they should be put on a bus and shipped out. If it is felony charges, the day they complete their sentence. If they have prior convictions, known gang affiliation, etc., out with them—FIRST, before even considering any variety of a DREAM act.
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