Posted on 11/28/2010 7:48:25 PM PST by Starman417
Wikileaks has released the next wave of classified material and it has made this country infinitely weaker. No country will want to confide, nor help, the US again knowing that they too could be embarrassed.
Ronald Neumann, who served as U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan from 2005 to 2007, tells Danger Room he fears the impact of forced candor on U.S. foreign relations. “A man might say things to his wife about his mother-in-law that he would be horrified to hear her repeat to her mother and the doing of which might even put great strain on his marriage,” Neumann says. “That is what a lot of classification is about. I believe it serves the public. There is always an argument for publicizing malfeasance. I do not believe there is one for making more difficult just getting on with the nation’s diplomatic business.”
The excuse given by Wikileaks for releasing the documents? Naive and ignorant:
This document release reveals the contradictions between the US’s public persona and what it says behind closed doors – and shows that if citizens in a democracy want their governments to reflect their wishes, they should ask to see what’s going on behind the scenes.
If you take this argument seriously, any confidential communication between government officials should be fair game for leaking so long as it somehow contradicts or questions, however glancingly, state policy. (Hypocrisy!) But of course, they’re not limiting publication to only those documents that undermine official State Department positions; as noted above in the context of Turkey’s foreign minister, a lot of this stuff will simply be bits of intelligence about various international actors and speculation about their motives. Nothing “hypocritical” about it — but mighty embarrassing.
This was done to weaken this country, plain and simple. With a already weak President in office these documents have most certainly caused major harm to this country. I mean think about it. It's common sense that State Department diplomatic cables would contain some embarrassing facts about different countries and their leaders. Now this country, and Obama, has a much more difficult road ahead:
The President needs his ambassadors to know what he wants; they need to be able to tell him what he can get. So it’s stupid to not be blunt and forthright in private about matters that require a softer public touch.
Think they will be blunt and forthright anymore?
Not gonna happen.
“Wikileaks’ deliberate disclosure of these diplomatic cables is nothing less than an attack on the national security of the United States, as well as that of dozens of other countries. By disseminating these materials, Wikileaks is putting at risk the lives and the freedom of countless Americans and non-Americans around the world. It is an outrageous, reckless, and despicable action that will undermine the ability of our government and our partners to keep our people safe and to work together to defend our vital interests. Let there be no doubt: the individuals responsible are going to have blood on their hands. I stand in full support of the Obama Administration’s condemnation of Wikileaks for these disclosures. I also urge the Obama Administration -- both on its own and in cooperation with other responsible governments around the world -- to use all legal means necessary to shut down Wikileaks before it can do more damage by releasing additional cables. Wikileaks’ activities represent a shared threat to collective international security.
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Screw Iceland. We know exactly where that server is, and we could target a Tomahawk on it within six inches.
Exactly what would Iceland do besides bitch?
Yes indeed, World chaos, fits right in the plan.
The stuff coming out compromises Soros’ operatives and agenda.
Look for a different socialist faction to be behind this.
As despicable as this is I don’t think the central villain is wikileaks. It’s the people feeding them. And if wikileaks didn’t exist these bast**ds would find some other venue.
Don’t be distracted by Obama’s ranting. Our real enemies are collecting paychecks payed by us.
I am still trying to assess all over this. My first thought is that Obama wanted this info out there to bring down Hillary. NYT said that the White House did not ask them to refuse to publish the cables.
So the 64 million dollar question (and the one that determines who goes down with Hillary)...is ...was she acting alone as a Rogue or in CIA speak..was she off the reservation... or did Obama approve of the spying on the UN officials - which is apparently illegal.
Who are you thinking?
An interesting conundrum. One thing is certain... the USA is bleeding to death as the elite duke it out. We can’t allow this to continue much longer...
We apparently have a CIA/globalist run government.
Because the people in these reports do not conduct government in a Constitutional fashion, we do not have records that citizens can review of their meetings and conduct in the foreign affairs arena.
All we know is that hundreds if not thousands of laptop with confidential information has been stolen from the State department, starting in the Clinton years.
We know that many of the individuals acting under the protection of the state department have loyalties to foreign governments and that the state department itself acts to support the ‘globalist’ agenda, and international corporations instead of individual rights of American citizens.
So, should American citizens be told what our government is actually doing? How will we get the information, if our own government officials despise the Constitution?
What are we hiding and why? Why aren’t the American people communicated to about the federal government’s foreign policy in spirit, if the details are too sensitive to enumerate?
“Exactly what would Iceland do besides bitch?”
Knit?
I don’t know. The leakers may not be our enemies. These leaks make the Saudis look bad and the Saudis put the muslim in the white hut. The also have a lot of money invested in ALL US Tv networks.
The Saudi king wants us to attack Iran. The Saudis behind funding al qeada but that has been scrubbed on most newspapers around the world tonight.
The leaks make the state dept look bad???
The CIA supports Obama and has their own agenda. I wonder if this is military defense intel pulling on the chain collar of the Saudis and maybe even the muslim.
Maybe the U.S. military intel fighting back against the state dept and CIA.
I think this is a war somewhere.
In a better world Bradley Manning would be exhibit A of why gays do not belong in the military.
Some on this forum have said for years, that the Saudi’s enable Al Quaeda.
Yet under ‘free trade’ rules, the Saudi’s own a significant chunk of Fox news and can ‘donate’ to American politicians.
When do the American people get told the truth?
Oh ALL of TV and ALL of Hollywood support O/islam/saudis/elites and Americans still watch Tv and support it. The public is clueless. They just confuse us so we have no idea what is going on.
I believe you are correct.
Its the global corporatist fascists against the global communists, probably.
The owner can be silenced.
The info hasn’t been scrubbed all over the internet.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AP06Z20101128?pageNumber=2
French aide calls Chavez crazy
French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s senior diplomatic advisor branded Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez “crazy” in talks with top US officials, according to a diplomatic cable leaked Sunday.
Jean-David Levitte made the comment in talks on September 16, 2009 with US Assistant Secretary of State Philip Gordon, according to a copy of a US memo published on the website of the British daily the Guardian.
“Levitte observed that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is ‘crazy’ and said that even Brazil wasn’t able to support him anymore,” said the US memo, part of a vast trove of diplomatic traffic released by the WikiLeaks website.
“Unfortunately, Chavez is taking one of the richest countries in Latin America and turning it into another Zimbabwe,” Levitte said, according to the US account of the meeting.
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