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Congress Internal Memo--What to Tell Your Constituents in Answer to Obama Eligibility Questions
puzo1.blogspot.com ^ | 11/05/2010 | Mario Apuzzo

Posted on 11/05/2010 10:42:58 AM PDT by rxsid

"Members of Congress Internal Memo--What to Tell Your Constituents in Answer to Obama Eligibility Questions - Their Talking Points Internal Memo Revealed

Members of Congress Internal Memorandum -- What to Tell Your Constituents in Answer to Obama Eligibility Questions - Their Talking Points Internal Memo Revealed. This was the spin that the Members of Congress were given to keep the American electorate at bay and confused in the debate about Obama's eligibility issues all the while the Congress did nothing to investigate the matter in a congressional hearing like they did for similar concerns about John McCain.

We have obtained a copy of the talking points memorandum put out by a lawyer for the Congressional Research Service to the Members of Congress back in April 2009 as to what to tell their constituents when they write to the Members of Congress and ask questions about Obama's eligibility. Now we know why all the answers coming back to constituents sounded like they were written by the same person and were full of the same obfuscations and half truths and non-truths. This copy was obtained via the diligent and persistent efforts of a patriot going by the pen name of "Tom Deacon" who obtained it from a Senator's office. Now we know the talking points the DC insiders and politicians have been groomed with to feed to their constituents who have been asking questions about the eligibility issues. Thank you Tom. Here is the link to the internal memorandum:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/41131059/Members-of-Congress-Memo-What-to-Tell-Your-Constituents-in-Answer-to-Obama-Eligibility-Questions


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: apuzzo; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 11/05/2010 10:42:59 AM PDT by rxsid
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Members of Congress Internal Memo--What to Tell Your Constituents in Answer to Obama Eligibility Questions - Their Talking Points Internal Memo Revealed

2 posted on 11/05/2010 10:43:59 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid

PFL


3 posted on 11/05/2010 10:45:04 AM PDT by Batman11 (Sarah Palin: "Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason!")
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To: rxsid
pRes_ _ent Obama is obviously NOT ELIGIBLE
or he would have revealed his birth certificate.
The Congress and VP Cheney were negligent for allowing this.


4 posted on 11/05/2010 10:48:12 AM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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5 posted on 11/05/2010 10:49:27 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 653 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Diogenesis

Hell, we are all negligent for letting him stay!

200 years ago how do you think it would have turned out?


6 posted on 11/05/2010 10:51:34 AM PDT by Delta 21 (If you cant tell if I'm being sarcastic...maybe I'm not.)
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To: rxsid

pfl


7 posted on 11/05/2010 10:51:43 AM PDT by John.Galt2012 (I'll take Liberty and you can keep the "Change"!)
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To: rxsid

So we can thank Hawaii for the travesty upon catastrophe called Obama. This vetting, according to the document, has to be done by the states. I hate federal laws in general but there needs to be a federal law that specifies that the presidential candidate must show his/her long form birth certificate to the state legislature wherein he/she resides and put on public view with no redacted information. No closing of public records like college, and post grad work and S.S. number.


8 posted on 11/05/2010 10:52:17 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: rxsid

Oh, boy, this is good. More active fraud and treason among those members that bit the apple. They all abetted in pulling this off.


9 posted on 11/05/2010 10:53:03 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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Well, under that memo I would say, no harm to foul so just bring forth the document.

Oh, you cannot find one, well, the presumption then is no document, no citizenship. No citizenship, no ability to be a bona fide legal president.


10 posted on 11/05/2010 10:53:57 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: Delta 21

200 years ago he would have been eligible.


11 posted on 11/05/2010 10:56:02 AM PDT by ozidar
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To: rxsid

I’m sure it was used by congress-critters on both sides of the aisle.


12 posted on 11/05/2010 10:59:06 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: ozidar; Delta 21
200 years ago he would have been eligible.

Possibly. He certainly wouldn't have been a Natural Born Citizen, but would he have been considered "a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution?"

13 posted on 11/05/2010 11:07:35 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
It seems this compiled mumbo jumbo says that it is the ultimate responsiblity of the states to vet and insure eligibility .

So, our mission should be to lobby the states - all of them - to not admit anyone on the ballot unless they have actually proven eligibility under the Constitution.

The entire memo excuses everyone, who I think should be investigated and prosecuted, and throws it back on the states. Chicken-poop politics.

They're tell us to sit down, and shut up about it because nothing will be done about it whatsover.
14 posted on 11/05/2010 11:08:56 AM PDT by FrankR (REPEAL Obamacare, or we'll vote you outta' there....)
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To: rxsid

took up more space than the long, certified BC would have.


15 posted on 11/05/2010 11:09:31 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: rxsid
It seems that the Republican opponent in 2012 could challenge his qualification in a state with a republican SoS right from the get-go.

Any challenger out there with the cajones to do that?

16 posted on 11/05/2010 11:13:49 AM PDT by longjack
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To: rxsid

Wow. They actually claimed that Obama presented a certified copy of his COLB and that the State of Hawaii actually certified that it was authentic. Wow.

Words fail me. The State of Hawaii has actually refused to say directly what the online image was but indirectly confirmed that it was a forgery.

I also noticed that they said that none of the Congressional members APPEARED to object to the electoral votes. They can’t legally know whether anybody objected or not, because the step of asking for objections - required by law - never happened. This lawyer knew he could not legally say that there had been no objections, knew the process was not legal.

My Congressman’s office was going to be sending me a copy of that Congressional Record showing the protocols that were used in that vote. I asked for that probably about a month ago and haven’t heard back. Maybe it’s time for me to call his office and bend his ear about this memo as well - which is absolutely wrong on its assertion regarding what the HDOH has said about Obama’s records.

This burns me, big-time.


17 posted on 11/05/2010 11:20:08 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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but would he have been considered “a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution?”

Not unless his father took the oath of allegiance to the US...

US Circuit Court, District of Columbia, 1808: Contee v. Godfrey, 6 Fed. Cas. 361 (#3140) (U.S.C.C. D.C. 1808), denied that the British-born daughter of an American antenatus who had chosen the British side could claim citizenship under the statute 7 Anne c. 5 (discussed in Kettner, Am. Citizenship, 20) which in English law had extended subjectship to the foreign-born children of subjects. In this case, the parent’s choice of alienage (before the daughter’s birth) clearly affected the descendant.

Read v. Read, 5 Call 160, 199 (Va. Ct. App. 1804) Justice Spencer Roane delivering the opinion:

The people themselves who are conquered are legitimated [in the new states] by virtue of the implied compact only, and cannot claim such legitimation by the paramount title of having been, at the time of their birth inheritable in that territory under another sovereign.

Heritage Guide to the Constitution; page 190:

[T]he third qualification to be president is that one must be a natural born citizen (or a citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution). Although any citizen may be a member of Congress so long as he held citizenship for the requisite period of time, to be president, one must be a natural born citizen. Undivided loyalty to the United States was a prime concern.[end quote]...Written by James C. Ho who wrote: “Unnatural Born Citizens and Acting Presidents” and was a supporter of Schwarzenegger for president and also for making adopted children born in foreign countries retroactive natural born citizens

18 posted on 11/05/2010 11:32:06 AM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: butterdezillion
Wow. They actually claimed that Obama presented a certified copy of his COLB and that the State of Hawaii actually certified that it was authentic. Wow.

Yeah wow. Because we know that the Hawaiian DNC did not certify Obama as Constitutionally eligible.


Time to repost this:


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To: STE=Q; Arthur Wildfire! March; little jeremiah; mojitojoe

"From: Sharon Rondeau
Sent: Wed 9/15/10 9:58 AM
To: Linden Joesting (oip@hawaii.gov)
Bcc: Redacted

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All I have asked for is certified copies of the DNC and RNC Certification of Nomination forms for presidential elections 2008, 2004, and 2000. I would think that the 2008 ones are in PDF format and can be quickly accessed and emailed to me. I cannot imagine that the others would not be easily accessible as well."


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Obama for the state of Hawaii and did not state Obama was qualified under the US Constitution. According to Hawaiian Law Revised Statutes 11-113, it does not specify that the the Hawaiian DNC had to certify Obama in Hawaii but that a recognized party does it. It took the National DemoRat party to certify Obama to satisfy Hawaiian law.


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The evidence:

Hawaiian Law Revised Statutes 11-113 (Presidential Ballots). The Hawaiian DNC state party left out for Obama's certification that he is qualified under the US Constitutional, which is highlighted in the letter below.


Hawaii Trying to be sly for Obama



Here is the Hawaiian DNC certification for Obama, which is missing the qualification under the US Constitution and for the state of Hawaii.



Hawaii DNC Certification Obama


John Kerry's 2004 Hawaiian party DNC Certification. Notice that Kerry is qualified under the US Constitutional and for the state of Hawaii.



Hawaii DNC Certification Kerry



Al Gore's 2000 Hawaiian DNC party certification. You will also notice that he fully complies with Hawaiian Revised Statutes 11-113.



Hawaii DNC Certification Gore



Enter Nancy Pelosi signed statement... because Hawaii did not fully certify Barack Hussein Obama. Pelosi signs the statement to fulfill the required Hawaiian law under Revised Statutes 11-113.

Repeat again from the letter,


"Hawaii Revised Statutes 11-113 (Presidential Ballots) provides that a recognized political party will provide the Office of Elections with following information prior to placing the names of its candidates for President and Vice President on the Presidential ballot:...."
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7 posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 3:58:05 PM by Red Steel
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19 posted on 11/05/2010 11:35:50 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: rxsid
Just tell everyone they have "no standing", and there is "no controlling legal authority", and whether or not he is a natural born citizen "depends on what the definition of 'is', is".


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

20 posted on 11/05/2010 11:46:08 AM PDT by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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