Posted on 10/12/2010 10:42:48 AM PDT by Bridgetteb
Looking Back at History Natural Born Citizen Discussions in the Late 1800′s
The definition of Natural Born Citizen and the presidential eligibility issue were researched in the late 1800's. Multiple newspaper articles are presented to show how constitutionalists and scholars in the 19th century addressed the issues by responding to citizen's questions. Copies of articles are shown.
The first article below asks: If a person with American parents is born in a foreign country would he be eligible to the presidency? Note the answer states parents not the singular word parent.
May 27, 1888 Is a Citizen Born Abroad Eligible to Be President?
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I was born in Germany on a USAF base of US parents. I believe I am eligible. More so than Obama.
The mothers of the President and First Lady in the new NBC show, “The Event”, are Cuban immigrants. ;0)
If the fictitious Cuban exile mother was naturalized at the time of the fictitious President’s birth, there is no problem. If she wasn’t, then there is.
Does this mean that those born in the US by C-section are not eligible?
Children of citizens ,be they born overseas( including )SHALL BE considered NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. Yes technically you are a Natural born citizen and can be President . obama was not born to American parents( both ) therefore he is not eligible to be President.
as long as their name is not MacBeth...
Penny, Thanks for adding a correct link!
I don’t know why those two links don’t work. They do get to the blog, and if one clicks on home, the article will be there.
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Could be interesting to compare nowadays.
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Workable links in #3.
Sorry about repeating the ping.
Depends on if it was a concert or a monster truck event.
What are you quoting? If it’s a law and not the Constitution, it does not apply. This is a good article to demonstrate what scholars thought in the 1800s. Gives an idea what the terms meant back then, not now, when people try to reinterpret the plain words of the Constitution. The INTENT of the Founders is what matters. And the reason WHY they believed it crucial that no president have divided loyalties. Thus, born on US soil to US citizen parentS.
Interesting discussions. The gray border case is that of a child born abroad to citizen parent(s). The case of child born in the US where one parent is a non-citizen is not a gray border case, it is in the area of settled cases. Such a child may become a citizen by law, but is NOT a natural born citizen.
Thus Obama is ineligible under the Law and there is no remedy for his case.
A Constitutional Amendment to change the requirements for Office would be the only remedy, and that is is an extremely unlikely event.
The editors eventually themselves settled on the more restrictive case that would exclude John McCain, or any other child of citizen Americans posted abroad in the service of their country. The editors decided that only those born in the US to citizen parents would be natural born citizens, although they noted other experts disputed that situation.
It does work when you click on “We The People” box!!!
That editorial discussion over the years 1880 through 1901 also corresponded to a mighty surge in immigration from the poorer areas of Europe, and the editorial stance must be taken as influenced by reactions to that surge.
See http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAEdecades.htm
That’s a darned good one! Thanks for linking to it. factsnotfantasy, I mean.
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