Posted on 09/20/2010 10:26:37 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
Sanity vs Honor? Socialism vs God? The debate is not new, hip or modern. It is a centuries old debate.
1790, France, the revolutionaries tried to establish the cult of Reason as an attempt get rid of Christianity.
The National Assembly took over the responsibilities of the Church, which included caring for the poor and the sick. The revolutionaries proceeded forward to take care of everything in France. They did such a wonderful job that four years later the Guillotine was working really hard to instill order in the country, spreading terror instead of love... Fast forward to 1873, Saint Petersburg, Russian Empire, Fyodor Dostoyevsky is reflecting on his past relationship with the famous critic Belnskiy, whose work for Westernizing the czardom was inspiration for future communists... "Do you know that mans sins cannot be counted against him and that he cannot be laden down with obligation to turn the other cheek when society is set up in such a mean fashion that a man cannot help but do wrong" Socialism gave the people the green light to blame somebody else for their own wrongdoings and to fight those who they blame for their misfortune (about 80 million folks were killed in the process)....
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I think that, in a way, a lot on the left have replaced God with the government. Ask a public sector employee where he thinks his salary, benefits and pension come from, and he will invariably say “the government.” But the funds come from the people, and the supply of money is not infinite.
exactly right. Government has been placed on the throne.
No democracy has ever yet been democratic.. NONE..
Democracy is a LIE.. to usher in socialism..
Democrats are ALL covert or overt Socialists.. (or deluded)..
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I’m not at all disagreeing with your comment, but I think the problem is even more profound than you suggest. Paraphrasing from your comment, ‘Ask any athiest or American-liberal intellectual where he thinks his rights come from, and he will invariably say “the government”’.
The ideology of American-style liberalism explicitly rejects the concept of “God-given rights” and asserts that rights are created and conveyed by government. That’s why American-style liberals have no probrem with so-called positive liberties such as rights to a job, a house, education, health care, old age incomes and other unearned welfare programs, etc. When the government declares the existence of a particular right such as a subsidized mortgage, and it springs into existence. When the government rescinds a right such as free speech, and it no longer exists.
The fool who says in heart that there is no God then searchs for some entity by which he can validate his own godless existence and justify rights. Being a fool, the athiest more often than not he chooses government to serve such ends.
Excellent point! Thanks for reply.
Thanks for the posting. It was a very interesting read.
It reminded me of an article I read discussing the differences between the US Constitution and the UN Charter. Under the US Constitution, Rights are inherit in all humans at birth and given to us by God. Under the UN Charter, the UN gives people their Rights.
Under the US Constitution, governments are created by men to protect the rights of citizens. Under the UN Charter, the UN can add or subtract rights as they so choose.
The major difference, as your article mentions, is the bases for morals. Under Christianity and the Constitution the basis is an absolute (God) with a source that isn’t changing (the Bible). Under a socialistic/atheistic/UN government the basis for morals is not absolute (usually groups of power brokers deciding what they want) and their guidelines have no real concrete thing to base their decisions off of.
The two other things that I’ve noticed about Godless governance is language and cost factor. Socialists/Atheists either make up names of undesireable traits with which to demonize their opposition (like homophobe, islamaphobe), have different meanings for common words (PC crap), and are hypocritical of other words (if they disagree with you, it’s reasoning, if you disagree with them it’s “hate”).
Cost factor is the absolute bottom line for those who have no faith in the “unseen”. They will save all the animals they can until such time as it becomes too expensive. The same is true with socialized Health care in countries like England. They care for you as long as it fits into their “cost” guidelines.
The cost factor also brings up something that God fearing people do that I seriously doubt a non-God fearing peson would ever do. Many churches and individuals have embarked on missions that cost lots of money and have no concievable way of succeeding or bearing financial fruit, but they do these charitable things because the believe it’s what God would want them to do. You’ll never see something like that done is a completely atheistic/socialistic run government/organization.
Just look at China. Every human being in that country is treated as an expendable piece of state property. Nobody is treated as having any inalienable rights except the ruling party members. Every “right” the state recognizes is for the sole purpose of maintaining public order.
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