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God bless Maj. Gen. Vallely .. he's not gonna relent. Godspeed.
1 posted on 09/16/2010 10:33:30 PM PDT by STARWISE
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; ...

** Ding!


2 posted on 09/16/2010 10:36:05 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

Prayers up!


4 posted on 09/16/2010 10:39:42 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: STARWISE

Amen. God bless the Maj Gen!


5 posted on 09/16/2010 10:40:42 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: STARWISE

He’s not Natural Born because his father was a British Subject and his mother was not old enough to confer citizenship. Why is that not being put forward as an argument?


6 posted on 09/16/2010 10:45:51 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: STARWISE

The chickens are coming home to roost....


7 posted on 09/16/2010 10:47:53 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: STARWISE

Spread this far and wide.....

The more people know about this, the better.

I, for one, have a nephew in the service. I’ll be damned if I want him under this gay, man-child, fraud’s “command”, with the possibility of winding up in an international criminal court!!!!!


8 posted on 09/16/2010 10:49:53 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: STARWISE
In short, to drop the search for an insignificant birth certificate and focus on the right question at hand. A second White Paper was published last week.

SQUIRREL!

20 posted on 09/17/2010 7:37:17 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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Lakin’s best defense IMO is not simply to challenge Obama’s eligibility, but to properly outline and defend his constitutional right and responsibility to challenge Obama’s eligibility as related to his military oath.

For example, Judge Lind said she wouldn’t allow discovery of Obama’s birth records by claiming irrelevance via the political question doctrine, which says ONLY Congress has the responsibility. To counter this, you have to show that the Constitution only specifies that Congress can certify the vote of electors. It gives no implied nor direct responsibility to Congress to verify eligibility. It also does not give this responsiblity to the electors in the various states. By virtue of the 10th amendment, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

We know there are at least TWO states that have laws that allow citizens to challenge the eligibility of presidential candidates. Ironically, these two states are Obama’s ‘home’ states: Hawaii and Illinois.

Hawaii’s statute (§11-113) says, “If the applicant, or any other party, individual, or group with a candidate on the presidential ballot, objects to the finding of eligibility or disqualification the person may, not later than 4:30 p.m. on the fifth day after the finding, file a request in writing with the chief election officer for a hearing on the question. A hearing shall be called not later than 4:30 p.m. on the tenth day after the receipt of the request and shall be conducted in accord with chapter 91.”

The statute gives citizens a short window in which to challenge having a name on a presidential ballot ... and a hearing would be called upon an objection. Obviously Lakin can’t use this law, but, IIUC, he’s a native of Colorado, so he wouldn’t use the Hawaiian law to challenge anyway. He would either have to use a Colorado law (or the state law for wherever he is registered to vote). If such a law does NOT exist, then the 10th amendment is saying this power, NOT delegated to the United States, NOT prohibited by the United States, and NOT exercised by a particular state would be reserved to the people. IOW, if there’s no similar law in Lakin’s home state, then he has the constitutional right to challenge Obama’s eligibility. I’ll explain, next why this is important.

Under the lawfulness of orders in the UCMJ, it says that an order is assumed to be lawful as long as it doesn’t require the service member to break the law. At least this is the one part of lawfulness that the military court specifies. The UCMJ also says, “The order must not conflict with the statutory or constitutional rights of the person receiving the order.” Lakin must establish and/or assert that he has a constitutional right to challenge Obama’s eligibility, and a responsibility to challenge Obama’s eligibility because of his military oath, which is to defend and support the Constitution.

Also on lawfulness of an order, the code says, “The commissioned officer issuing the order must have authority to give such an order. Authorization may be based on law, regulation, or custom of the service.” Ckearly, this gives Lakin not simply an ability to challenge the lawfulness of his immediate superior issuing the order, but the lawfulness of the authorization behind the order. In Charge II, specification 4, the order was made in support of Operation Enduring Freedom, which is under the authority of the commander in chief.

Also under Art. 92, it says “General orders or regulations are those orders or regulations generally applicable to an armed force which are properly published by the President or the Secretary of Defense ...” The UCMJ acknolwedges the chain of command in lawfulness of orders ... and again, the charge that was connected to Operation Enduring Freedom also connects Lakin’s charges to supporting the directives of an unlawful president. The distinction is that Lakin is challenging Obama’s constitutional authority by NOT being a natural born citizen. It is a constitutional right and Lakin can disobey orders that prevent him from challenging Obama.

Without establishing that Lakin has a right to challenge the authority of the chain of the command and a constitutional right to challenge the lawfulness of his commander in chief, he won’t get a chance to bring up Obama’s failure to meet the definition of natural born citizen, so it’s kind of pointless to talk about dropping the strategery based on demanding the birth certificate.

If he does successfully argue his right to disobey orders, then IMO he still needs to pursue the birth certificate as it will expose Obama for criminal fraud as well as being ineligible for office. And it’s important for any challenge to Obama being a natural born citizen is done on the basis of the Supreme Court’s definition (not Vattel), which said, based on ‘common law,’ that “... all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens ...” The military court would have no foundation to argue against this definition.


24 posted on 09/17/2010 8:45:33 AM PDT by edge919
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To: STARWISE

‘Bout danged time to focus on something other than that birth certificate! This is long overdue IMO.

They should have been focusing on Obama’s daddy from the getgo and that Senate resolution which affirmed TWO citizen parents! Lakin’s defense team not only needs help, they ned to recuse themselves and get Lakin a defense team that actually knows what they’re doing!


25 posted on 09/17/2010 8:49:16 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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Ping..................


36 posted on 09/17/2010 2:47:51 PM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: STARWISE

Here’s the strategy he ought to employ: plead guilty.


41 posted on 09/18/2010 4:48:32 AM PDT by imfleck
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To: STARWISE

A lot of big names are starting to speak out......If Lakin gets some more high profile support and donations to fight the Holder/Soros/Hussein smear machine this may go somewhere.

Even if it doesn’t, the brush fire is lit and the winds are starting to blow.

When most of the active duty military have doubts that the CIC is legitimate, you know this thing is going to explode.

It’s telling that all the usual trolling, lowlife, simpering, Obama-rumpswab bedwetters are here. The memo went out.....change your acorn issued depends and start spamming eligibility threads.


44 posted on 09/18/2010 7:00:26 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (I'm armed and Amish.)
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To: STARWISE

God bless Maj. Gen. Vallely


62 posted on 09/18/2010 4:09:09 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: STARWISE

Just pulled from the web a presentation that Arizona i.e. Gov. Brewer should challenge the eligibility authority of the POTUSA to act against Arizona. It seems Arizona would have ‘standing’ for such a challenge. Any one know about this?


75 posted on 09/18/2010 11:12:40 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: STARWISE

Greta says he was born in Hawaii so end of discussion. (sarc)


76 posted on 09/18/2010 11:15:36 PM PDT by jarofants
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FYI


89 posted on 09/19/2010 1:20:06 PM PDT by verity
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To: STARWISE

A very heartening development.


94 posted on 09/19/2010 3:42:46 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
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To: STARWISE

A true blue American hero. May The LORD vindicate him with His truth.


222 posted on 09/22/2010 2:09:43 PM PDT by Bellflower (All meaning is in The LORD.)
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To: STARWISE

This is exactly right.

A few points here:

1) By his own admission in his writings, Zero ADMITS that he is NOT eligible - i.e. his father NEVER was a US Citizen, therby invalidating any claim for Article II, Section 1 Natural Born Citizenship.

2) As such, COL Lind’s ruling and the entire Courts Martial process is also invalid as the the authority to convene a Courts Martial derives from the authority of the President of the United States (National Command Authority) and this CAN NOT be abrogated.

3) The defense should go for OPEN SOURCE (i.e. Obama’s published works) as evidence that he has freely admitted to point 1.

What have I missed?


223 posted on 09/22/2010 2:17:08 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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