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Wrong Court ruled on Arizona Law
Googled search on Before It's News ^ | September 8, 2010

Posted on 09/08/2010 11:15:03 PM PDT by GracieB

In a stunning development that could potentially send the nation into a Constitutional crisis, an astute attorney who is well-versed in Constitutional law states that the ruling against the State of Arizona by Judge Susan Bolton concerning its new immigration law is illegal. The attorney in question submitted her assertion in a special article in the Canada Free Press. Her argument states in part, “Does anyone read the U.S. Constitution these days? American lawyers don’t read it. Federal Judge Susan R. Bolton apparently has never read it. Same goes for our illustrious Attorney General Eric Holder.

But this lawyer has read it and she is going to show you something in Our Constitution which is as plain as the nose on your face.

“Article III, Sec. 2, clause 2 says: “In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction.” In other words, the Judge in the Arizona case has absolutely no Constitutional jurisdiction over the matter upon which she ruled. As the Constitution makes abundantly clear, only the U.S. Supreme Court can issue rulings that involve a state. This means that neither Judge Bolton nor the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco , to which the case is being appealed, have any legal standing whatsoever to rule on the issue. Thus, U.S. Attorney-General Eric Holder filed the federal government’s lawsuit against the state of Arizona in a court that has no authority to hear the case.

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To: GracieB

If this is in fact true, seems to me The honorable judge Bolton is in desperate need of impeachment and removal for judicial malfeasance.


21 posted on 09/09/2010 4:23:23 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: Publius6961; Defiant
Or, alternatively, you have bought into the law school revisionism of the powers of the Supreme Court whose decisions have been allowed to overide the Constitution. However, the powers of the Judiciary were as carefully circumscribed as the other two branches of the US government. Clearly, that cannot be allowed ever. Equally clearly, the Supreme Court has made wrong decisions more than a few times. So much for the inviolability of "precedent!"

Defiant is absolutely correct and your response shows complete ignorance of the Constitution and the powers and jurisdiction of the SCOTUS.

Art. III, §2 gives the Supreme Court original jurisdiction over certain types of cases, including cases in which a State is one of the parties. There is a significant difference, however, between "original" jurisdiction and "exclusive" jurisdiction: Art. III, §1 gives Congress the power to create "inferior courts" (i.e., district courts), and in doing so, Congress has given jurisdiction to the inferior courts that overlaps the original jurisdiction of the Supreme Court, including jurisdiction to hear cases in which a State is one of the parties.

In addition, under the Separation of Powers doctrine, the Supreme Court, since its earliest days, has interpreted the original jurisdiction clause to mean concurrent jurisdiction, as opposed to exclusive jurisdiction, with the jurisdiction of the inferior courts that Congress has created. Indeed, by its own rules -- again, under the Separation of Powers Doctrine -- the Supreme Court has limited its original jurisdiction, with few exceptions, to appellate jurisdiction from the inferior courts that Congress has created under Article III. (One of the exceptions is that the SCOTUS has retained original jurisdiction over cases between two states that involve territorial boundaries.) Thus, the Supreme Court could have exercised original jurisdiction, over the Arizona Immigration Case, it has by rule and precedent chosen to to defer to the the concurrent jurisdiction of the District Courts.

Lastly, before you blame "law school revisionism" and liberal activist judges for overriding and perverting the Constitution, please note that the Supreme Court precedent and rulemaking authority to limit the exercise of the Court's original jurisdiction, goes back to the days of Chief Justice John Jay (one of the authors of the Federalist Papers) and Chief Justice John Marshall, at a time when the Justices on the Supreme Court who made the rules and precedent to limit original jurisdiction, were the Founding Fathers of our great nation.

22 posted on 09/09/2010 5:23:01 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: bcsco

The “opinion” was written by the village idiot too.


23 posted on 09/09/2010 5:41:54 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (((.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: GracieB; All

Unless I’m mistaken congress amended federal law to allow US District Courts to hold concurrent original jurisdiction over cases involving ambassadors


24 posted on 09/09/2010 5:43:42 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo (We've lost control of our own borders, and no nation can do that and survive-Ronald Reagan)
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To: GracieB

This has been around for a while; it’s dreck.


25 posted on 09/09/2010 5:57:16 AM PDT by Grut
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To: Defiant

There were no federal circuit courts at the time of the writing of the Constitution—only the Supreme court is mentioned as the federal court. Circuit courts, and in fact the whole federal judicial system itself, were set up as a kind of extension of the Supreme Court, therefore when the Constitution says the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction, this functionally means federal courts have original jurisdiction, instead of local or state courts.

If they have “appellate jurisdiction” it means that state and local courts could try a case, but, the case could then be appealed to the federal courts.

Therefore it appears this is a stupid and ill-informed article.

Any first year law student—or just someone who’s had paralegal training (as I have) can tell you this.


26 posted on 09/09/2010 7:06:08 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: Labyrinthos; Publius6961

Thanks, Labyrinthos, you said it all so I don’t have to.


27 posted on 09/09/2010 9:36:55 AM PDT by Defiant (Liberals care more about the Koran than they did about Terri Schiavo.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
The “opinion” was written by the village idiot too.

OK, it's one of those days where my brain cells aren't functioning all that well*. I'm assuming you mean a clerk in Bolton's court who wrote the opinion. Am I wrong?

*Too much golf...but pretty good golf... :)

28 posted on 09/09/2010 1:15:59 PM PDT by bcsco (From Recovery Summer to The Winter of our Discontent...)
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To: bcsco

No, you are correct ;-)


29 posted on 09/09/2010 2:24:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (((.Go troops! " Vote out RINOS. They screw you EVERY time" Jim Robinson)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
No, you are correct ;-)

OK, then maybe my mind isn't as muddled as I thought. Too much going on lately, and too much lousy weather as well. It's too soon for Fall.

30 posted on 09/09/2010 5:34:59 PM PDT by bcsco (From Recovery Summer to The Winter of our Discontent...)
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To: bcsco

Down to a peak of about 90 here, and the cost to play golf will soon double ;-)


31 posted on 09/10/2010 9:00:07 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

It’s been very windy with gusts up to 50+ earlier this week. Yesterday was cloudy and around 70. Today, sunny and low 70’s but rain coming later this evening. I think the balmy days may be over.

I spent 11-1 downtown working Kiwanis Peanut Day. Then again from 4-5 out at Wal-Mart. Beautiful day, but I hope the rain holds until I finish that last shift. Three more weeks and my term as president ends. I’m looking forward to that. I’m letting the new guy do more and more as well. Heh.

Yeah, golf will double shortly for the Snowbirds. We don’t have that problem here. We’ll golf through October, maybe into November. Then it’ll be March before the courses open again. Rarely, we’ll have a Winter that allows us to golf through the season, but Winter’s been getting colder the past few years, and I don’t expect that to happen this year. Anyway, I have my little membership at a local 9-holer, so I don’t worry about it.


32 posted on 09/10/2010 11:54:28 AM PDT by bcsco (From Recovery Summer to The Winter of our Discontent...)
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To: bcsco

PEANUT Day ??


33 posted on 09/10/2010 12:53:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: stephenjohnbanker

It’s a Kiwanis fundraiser. We have two clubs in town, which join together for this one event. We provide small bags of peanuts in exchange for freewill donations, money we turn around back to the community in support of youth-related programs. We have some other fundraisers during the year, but this is one that’s a national, if not international, in scope.


34 posted on 09/10/2010 1:36:24 PM PDT by bcsco (From Recovery Summer to The Winter of our Discontent...)
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To: bcsco

Sounds like a worthwhile endeavor. Good luck with it.


35 posted on 09/10/2010 2:05:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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