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Why Pelosi Signed Two Certificates of Nomination
Sept 8, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 09/08/2010 7:21:00 PM PDT by butterdezillion

Nancy Pelosi signed one certificate of nomination which was sent to 49 states and another - saying that Obama is Constitutionally eligible - to Hawaii. People have asked why she didn't send the eligibility-certifying one to all the states, but the more pressing question is, "Why did the Hawaii Democratic Party refuse to certify Obama's eligibility?"

This is on my blog but I'll post the whole thing in the first response and the link to the blog post in the 2nd response so the links will be (hopefully) clickable.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; democraticparty; eligibility; fraud; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama; pelosi; usurper
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To: Menehune56

I think vote fraud can only be expected to cover about a 10% difference. If they have to make up any higher difference than that it would be too obvious. Soros wanting the 2010 SOS races to go to his puppets makes it seem like they might have that in mind for 2012 though.

I’m wondering if they’re figuring on a terrorist attack, some kind of economic panic, or some way of declaring martial law.

About all we can do is wait and see.


201 posted on 09/09/2010 5:47:40 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

If I were a resident of Hawaii, I would pursue it anyway. But, alas, I’m a resident of Texas. So I am pursuing a lawsuit to compel Boyd Richie, Chairman of the TDP to release documents (not Obama’s BC) that Texas law mandates he have in his possession.


202 posted on 09/09/2010 5:53:54 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: butterdezillion

If I were a resident of Hawaii, I would pursue it anyway. But, alas, I’m a resident of Texas. So I am pursuing a lawsuit to compel Boyd Richie, Chairman of the TDP to release documents (not Obama’s BC) that Texas law mandates he have in his possession.


203 posted on 09/09/2010 5:54:11 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I couldn’t find Part One but read the last 2 parts.

Politically I think the DNC needed the HDP with them more than the other way around. If the DNC royally ticked off the wrong people in the HDP the HDP could have forced the DNC to have Hillary as the candidate by going public with what they knew about Obama.

The HDP was behind Obama, I believe, and the HDP would want Obama in because they could control him just as they could control the DNC in some ways. Or at least they could have a lot of leverage - and Hawaii has gotten a lot of money because of Obama.


204 posted on 09/09/2010 6:01:31 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Nope. When Obama’s campaign website linked to an image of the COLB (fake or not) and then later allowed FactCheck to publish photographs of the COLB (fake or not,) Obama authorized the disclosure of his private information to the general public. At that point the information he released made that specific informaton on the COLB (not the details that might be on the long form) publicly available. In doing so, he legally released the HDoH from their responsibility to protect (and keep confidential) the data on his COLB.

There's no 'nope' there. I didn't disagree that Obama released an image of an alleged COLB. I pointed out an error in your timeline and your statement that Hawaii released confidential information. They didn't.

205 posted on 09/09/2010 6:04:43 PM PDT by edge919
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To: BuckeyeTexan

One of my favorite characters in the New Testament is Thomas, because he was so real - and because once he was convinced he was willing to hold on even in the face of martyrdom. He knew what he needed in order to be convinced, and he was the one person Jesus would have allowed to touch his hands and side because He knew Thomas needed that.

I am so much like Thomas in so many ways, and seeing how Jesus dealt with Thomas means the world to me. A dimly-burning wick He won’t snuff out.

I hope I never imply that you should turn off your need for good solid evidence. Doesn’t mean I won’t think you’re being a little too suffy sometimes.... lol.

I think most people here are honestly seeking the truth. And I think we’re getting closer to it each day.


206 posted on 09/09/2010 6:11:36 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion

You have to read all three parts in order. Part One establishes information that becomes important in Part Two and Part Two builds upon the information presented in Part One. Same with Part Two and Part Three. If you need the links, I can post them here.


207 posted on 09/09/2010 6:15:12 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: JoeA

Interesting question. I look forward to hearing any responses from somebody who might know.


208 posted on 09/09/2010 6:15:13 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: rolling_stone

I will definitely vouch for you on that. You are a man of great integrity.

And with few exceptions, I think everybody here wants the trails to lead to the truth so I think we’re in good company.


209 posted on 09/09/2010 6:17:53 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Good for you! And good luck! =)


210 posted on 09/09/2010 6:19:45 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: edge919

Jill Nagamine at the AG’s office claims that they didn’t release confidential information when they said that Obama’s vital records claim a Hawaii birth because they say that Obama wouldn’t have birth index data if his BC didn’t claim a Hawaii birth.

Shortly after that I requested the index to foreign births, which existed in 1981 and was required to be kept permanently. The HDOH claims they don’t have it. (Surprise, surprise!)

So it’s hard to tell whether Nagamine’s argument is accurate or not.

I’m not sure that Fukino is authorized to release information that isn’t the standard index data that she’s given standing authorization to be released. HRS 338-18a forbids disclosures from the actual certificates that aren’t authorized by rules or law. The legal justification that Fukino could give for mentioning the Hawaii location would probably be Obama’s release of that information by supposedly posting his COLB.

That’s how it seems to me, but I’m happy to hear your explanation.


211 posted on 09/09/2010 6:28:37 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
Thanks for the compliment, and I return the complement, you seem to be not only a straight shooter, but a hard working treasure full of information that you have dug up. It amazes me how you can keep track of so much info.

I am sad the people like you and others here and the many who filed lawsuits sacrificed their time, energy, and resources, and some risked punishment to do something our PAID CONGRESS and SUPREME COURT should have done long ago.

We are truly a third world nation run by lawbreaking thugs who have no ethics and are looking out only for themselves and what they can gain. This corrupt government should stop soon or I fear what may happen, the sleeping populace has been awakened and they are ticked off. Methinks they do not take kindly to being told to eat cake while the treasury is being robbed by common thieves. Politicans seem to have forgoten the lessons of the American and French Revolutions, and how such things can get out of hand and I would hate to see a "Reign of Terror" but it appears to be just over the horizon to those that have a keen eye.

It's past time for the powers to be to go to the WH and have a chat and remove this un-American "King" from his throne before more drastic actions are taken. Alas I have little hope of such a quick and painless solution, but hope springs eternal....

212 posted on 09/09/2010 6:33:46 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; ...

Thanks justiceseeker93.


213 posted on 09/09/2010 6:37:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: butterdezillion

338-18(a) restricts the release of confidential information EXCEPT as authorized by under the rest of 338-18.

We know that under part (d):

“Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.”

And a previous version of the law said, “Index data consisting of name, age, and sex of the registrant and date, type and file number of the vital event and such other data as the director may authorize may be made available to the public.”

In both versions of the law, the director has discretionary authority to make other data available from a vital record. There’s no explicit restriction of any particular data the director can release, so to say that any information is ‘confidential’ would be technically incorrect because the director has the authority to disclose it and/or authorize the disclosure of additional information.


214 posted on 09/09/2010 6:46:50 PM PDT by edge919
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’ll see if I can find it. It’s probably right in front of my face and I was just too impatient to look very hard. Once my kids get home from school things get sort of muddled around here. lol.

I decided that between my 10-year-old daughter, my 16-year-old daughter, and me, we just have too much estrogen in one room - especially when we’re all having tooth pain at the same time too. lol


215 posted on 09/09/2010 6:49:05 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: rolling_stone

Gotta keep hoping, and working. Somehow it will pay off. Nothing is ever in vain; we just don’t always see its impact right away.

God bless all the people who have put time, energy, and treasure on the line for the higher good. And I know He will.

I think the time is coming soon when we will know what it’s going to take to get the country back.


216 posted on 09/09/2010 6:53:56 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: edge919

But do you think that allows different index data to be discloseable for different people - like for one person Fukino can say she’ll release name and gender, and for another person she’ll release name, gender, and number of diaper changes in the first hour? Just kidding. I guess there’s not much in the way of index data that could be embarrassing - although Obama seems to think there would be some great secret on his COLB that would make him so embarrassed he’d just wanna throw up or DIE. lol.

I guess I’m just thinking that if Fukino can change her definition of “index data” with each individual, it sort of negates 338-18a because everything on the certificate itself could be called “index data” so there’s nothing that 338-18a would still apply to.

Know what I mean? I guess I’m not seeing the point of HRS 338-18a if Fukino can do what she wants to do anyway just because she’s the Director.


217 posted on 09/09/2010 7:00:04 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; ...

brilliant.

send the information to your ‘Representatives’ and ‘Senators’ and ask them why this information has to be dredged up by citizen-patriots and why we have to badger them for action!


218 posted on 09/09/2010 7:11:47 PM PDT by bitt
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To: butterdezillion

Would it be possible to write the same kind of requests to other states’ Department of Elections to get their information and copies of their certificates of nomination from the DNC?


219 posted on 09/09/2010 7:27:35 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: rolling_stone; butterdezillion

You will notice in the list below that all except #2 Nancy P and #3 Danial Inouye are B0 appointments. When he is removed they are removed.....Nancy is involved in the scam...and do I need to say anything about Inouya? After the new congress takes their seat there will be a new Speaker of the House. Watch very carefully who the GOP puts in that position. Don’t think it will be Boehner....But whomever it is they will be the next President of the US. Pence? Bachman?

Expect that the SCOTUS and others are already discussing how best to achieve transition without putting the nation at risk for a long period of time.....sort of a three AM call thing.


This is a list of the current presidential line of succession,[1] as specified by the United States Constitution and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 (3 U.S.C. § 19) and subsequent amendments to include newly created cabinet officers.

# Office Current Officer
1 Vice President Joe Biden
2 Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
3 President pro tempore of the Senate Daniel Inouye
4 Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton
5 Secretary of the Treasury Timothy Geithner
6 Secretary of Defense Robert Gates[2]
7 Attorney General Eric Holder
8 Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar
9 Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack

etc.


220 posted on 09/09/2010 7:55:50 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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