Posted on 09/04/2010 5:59:02 AM PDT by joeclarke
Thank, you, Brother and Sister Hudson for coming to Akron. As St. Paul stated, that no matter how the Gospel is delivered, I am thankful, even if I do not agree with, maybe, some of your message. None of us Christians agree in entirety with another Christian's theology.
I hope you are successful in delivering the milk of the wonderful Gospel message to the young teens in our area, many of whom will be in the pews because of your daughter Katy Perry's stardom. Of course, I hope that these same kids will be taught not to revere Katy even though she has your 'unconditional' love as well as God's - according to your preaching.
I also hope that you, Katy, and the kids will hear in your message that there is a condition for God's love and that is that we must accept or believe for it (Him). Nothing is forced on us so much so that we must believe forever in Him who died for us. If we choose to serve God, we are blessed. If we choose to serve God and backslide, let it be assured, we will be chastened. Perhaps those first believing in Christ should not be hit so hard - even like newborn babes - with the reality that God does "chasten those who he loves." God must be known first for his mercy, but I believe that his mercy includes disciplining his children, "without chastening, you would be bastards." And, that he does not do it for his pleasure, the Bible says. The Bible is very clear on the matter that "fornication is a sin against the body." It is so rampant among teens, and adults, that they must be told what the consequences are - and, not just STDs.
Katy Perry is now known in the world as a girl who has lost her salt and has gone the way of the world. I heard her say recently that she was once a dedicated Christian, but then she learned that the "world is not flat." So, she has gone on to sing things like, "I Kissed A Girl... " and worse. I hope and pray that she does not end up like so many singers, who started out in the Lord like Amy Grant, Sandy Patty, Whitney Houston and even Jessica Simpson, but became so overwhelmed with the world that they shame God and disaffect others toward Jesus Christ. As of this writing, I can admit that some or all of the above people may have repented and are back on track with Jesus.
Jesus knew that some of us would have to leave family members (just for a time?) for His sake because he knew that they would only drag us away from His best will for our lives. The New Testament also warns us not to be unequally yoked, and not to even eat with a brother who is a fornicator, railer, covetous, drunkard etc. I personally had to do this many years ago when my own very Catholic parents commanded, "Don't bring your Jesus into our house." After some time, though, they admitted that my new faith in Christ was real - only because I continued to follow Him, rather than give in to my desires to merely continue my 'old' life of putting family first, rather than Jesus. My family, after some time, recognized that I was truly born again, old things did pass away, and I was not merely a confused member of some cult.
Yes,God's love is unconditional toward those who will receive his unconditional love. If we refuse his love, especially after first believing in Him and the sacrifice of His Son, we are in danger like those who were told by Jesus, "Go and sin no more, lest a worse thing comes upon you."
I will continue to pray for you, and all those who you minister the gospel to.I believe a great revival is here and we don't want to miss it. I also hope Katy will not miss it. Let's publish all of the Good News, even that part of it that is bad news for the flesh. May The Lord Bless You All
Anyone know of a good product to remove religious smarminess from a computer monitor?
“Anyone know of a good product to remove religious smarminess from a computer monitor?”
Accepting Jesus as your Savior helps.
Amy Grant? What’s wrong with her?
Is this guy upset because she had some crossover music?
That’s the whole point these guys miss. It’s better if some people of good character get into the secular music business and be salt and light instead of saying that Christian musicians can only sing hymns in church.
Done that
A product that works on religious smarminess AND religious judgmentalism would be GREAT!
Let’s not use any sort of religious judgment, then?
she left her husband for Vince Gill, who was also married at the time.
Look into that story a little more to see what happened.
Oh Amy Grant, what have you become?
Listen to Amy when she received her Hollywood Walk Of Fame Award http://defendingcontending.com/2007/12/18/oh-amy-grant-what-have-you-become/
Liberals are in good company with Conservatives who hate Christ’s commands.
In 1998 Amy left her husband of 16 years, Gary Chapman. Gary literally got on his knees and begged Amy to stay. In June 1999, Amy divorced Gary. And quickly, in March 2000, Amy married country star Vince Gill. In 1996, Vinces wife Janis found a noteI love you, Amyin his golf bag. (People, Nov. 29, 1999), As early as 1994, Amy told Gary,
. . . Ive given my heart to another man. (CCM, January 2000, p. 36)
Whoa! I am completely out of touch on this kind of stuff.
Given the track record of some of these guys in Christian music Katy might not be any different if she were in Christian music instead of mainstream music.
‘Given the track record of some of these guys in Christian music Katy might not be any different if she were in Christian music instead of mainstream music.’
Holy Correctomundo, Batman!
That’s funny coming from somebody being smarmy and judgmental.
“Lets not use any sort of religious judgment, then?”
If Katy were going around claiming to be a Christian- well then we could judge her. Sorry. Strike that. Then we could try to restore her.
But she isn’t making such a claim.
That being the case,we should pray for her.
The people Jesus dealt with harshly were the people who considered themselves religious. “Thank God I’m not like those women, former Christian singers”
Religious judgment is reserved for people who claim Christ, not for those who reject him
Will
I’m curious about the Sandi Patty reference. What did she do?
See post 14- religious people are fair game for smarminess and judgment.
Sandi Patty had an adulterous affair with someone in her band or crew, became pregnant. If I remember correctly, Gary Chapman had a drug problem at the very least, he and Amy went through a great deal of counseling. I lost track by the time Vince Gill came into the picture.
“A product that works on religious smarminess AND religious judgmentalism would be GREAT”
HELP! The Paranoids are after me!!!!
What part of those two women speaks of good character?
Oh judgmentalism where art thou!
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