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Yes, Daisy, It Is Hate
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 8-24-10 | philman_36

Posted on 08/24/2010 8:29:56 AM PDT by philman_36

There is much ado recently about the proposed mosque to be built at Ground Zero and the wife of Imam Rauf has subsequently gone on CNN to state that "It's not even Islamophobia, it's beyond Islamophobia -- it's hate of Muslims," she said. "And we are deeply concerned."
Well, Daisy, I hate to tell you this, but you've hit the nail on the head with me anyway, just not in the manner you think. I also am deeply concerned and have been so for a number of years. I can't speak for anyone one else but I'll tell you a few things I hate...

I hate seeing someone try to force a specific form of religious worship upon me and others under the threat of death.
I hate seeing someone try to force upon me a brutish and archaic form of law which doesn't hold me as an equal before the law.
I hate seeing someone dance with glee when devastating attacks occur on their presumed enemy.
I hate seeing someone who wishes to completely destroy other nations by driving them into the sea.
I hate seeing someone perform an honor killing for some perceived slight, believing it to be a form of justice and an honorable act.
I hate seeing someone who, in this day and age, would stone others to death, often without a trial.
I hate seeing someone indoctrinate young boys, warping them in the process from forever interacting with other societies, into believing that certain groups of people are "evil" and should be murdered outright.
I hate seeing someone perform clitorectomies (female genital mutilation) on young girls for no reason beyond religious dictates.
I hate seeing someone, under the dictates of their religious tomes, lie to anyone not of their religion.

And most of all I hate when somebody can't discern the difference between hating a person or group of people and hating the actions of people while being told sanctimoniously to get my own house in order.

So yes, Daisy, there is hate. And if Muslims, as a people, happen to fall into the category of the things I hate then they have only themselves to blame. Their actions dictate my response.
I'm sorry about that. It's just that I appear to have principals different from theirs.


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To: philman_36

I hate Islam, not Muslims (with the possible exception of Mo-ham-head and a few others).


21 posted on 08/24/2010 9:03:40 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: philman_36

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22 posted on 08/24/2010 9:07:51 AM PDT by FrankR (It doesn't matter what they call us, only what we answer to....)
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To: Dead Corpse
So, now what do we do about it?
For the time being I'm going to "heap shame", share my thoughts and understanding on the issue and expose the duplicity in the argument being used.

I can't and wouldn't, tell others what to do. Each of us does as we each see fit.

If you want to join a peaceful protest march then do so.
If you want to boycott Muslim owned businesses, making sure they understand why you're doing so, then do that.
If you want to drop a burning bag of dog feces on a particular doorstep then do so.
If you want to take a slingshot and go shoot out the windows of the local mosque or Muslim owned business then do that.
There are a multitude of things one could do of their own choosing. (notice how they get progressively worse)

I would, however, advise that one consider the consequences of their actions if any actions are against the law.
This article is, after all, about actions people take.

23 posted on 08/24/2010 9:08:47 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: FrankR
As for me and mine...
Never forget, never surrender.
24 posted on 08/24/2010 9:10:46 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36; Admin Moderator

No attempt to incite violence was intended, as the tagline follow-up indicated...

If it’s felt that this “humor” post was over-the-top, offensive, or an opportunity to be used for Conservative-bashing elsewhere, the ‘Report Abuse’ link is available.


25 posted on 08/24/2010 9:17:03 AM PDT by mikrofon (Let's move on)
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To: dfwgator
Rauf is a modern-day incarnation of Fritz Kuhn, who headed the German-American Bund in the 1930s, that pretended to be patriotic Americans, but really was a front for Hitler.

Yep. But some other Kuhns did sacrifice to try to restore some honor to our family name.

My granddad....


26 posted on 08/24/2010 9:17:13 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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To: philman_36

I have been struggling with my “hatred” which goes against my Christian beliefs. However, you have aptly described what I fear. I think that we only hate things that we fear; at least that is what I have noticed in my own personality.


27 posted on 08/24/2010 9:18:34 AM PDT by DallasDeb (USAFA '06 Mom)
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To: Vigilantcitizen

True, and the Supreme Allied Commander came from German immigrants as well.

But just because some group claims to be “loyal Americans” doesn’t mean they are.


28 posted on 08/24/2010 9:18:53 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mikrofon
No attempt to incite violence was intended, as the tagline follow-up indicated...
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't even see the tag line.
29 posted on 08/24/2010 9:20:27 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Well said, philman.


30 posted on 08/24/2010 9:20:42 AM PDT by nutmeg (Another "smartass" for lower taxes)
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To: DallasDeb
I have been struggling with my “hatred” which goes against my Christian beliefs.
Hatred of immoral acts isn't wrong, IMO. Neither does hatred of such acts go against my Christian beliefs.

I think that we only hate things that we fear; at least that is what I have noticed in my own personality.
I don't fear any of the things I've listed. I find them loathsome and beneath dignity. There is a difference.

31 posted on 08/24/2010 9:25:29 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

I don’t think our hate could ever equal theirs. I have never contemplated killing someone by sawing off their head and then saying my god condoned it. Even their god is one of hate.


32 posted on 08/24/2010 9:25:53 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: nutmeg

Thank you very much.


33 posted on 08/24/2010 9:26:34 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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34 posted on 08/24/2010 9:26:56 AM PDT by dselig
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I hope you'll pardon my criticism, but you're not getting it either. It was the actions of the Nazis that was hated. If they hadn't done the things they did they wouldn't have been so reviled either then or now.

I get it and it's a little bigger than that...

There are people who join the Nazi Party, today...It's the same Party as Hitler's Nazis...They know what they are joining...I put them in the same boat as muzlims...The muzlims know that their Koran tells them to murder all Jews and all who will not become muzlim...

35 posted on 08/24/2010 9:40:07 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I don’t think our hate could ever equal theirs.
It isn't hate in their eyes. In their eyes it's their religious duty so their actions aren't motivated by that particular emotion. To them it's fervor.

I have never contemplated killing someone by sawing off their head and then saying my god condoned it.
Nor have I. But their god isn't what we conceive God to be.

Even their god is one of hate.
Their "god", IMO, is nothing more than a book and a man who made known his idea of how the world should work in that book.
Surrender to me or my followers, submit to our law or die.
Claiming that such rantings are "from God" only fools the ignorant, the gullible and those of an enslavement mentality.
Sounds like a tyrannical dictator to me.

36 posted on 08/24/2010 9:40:57 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: dselig
I hate seeing someone cut off the nose and ears of a pretty young woman as retribution for running away from a violent, abusive life.
37 posted on 08/24/2010 9:47:24 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Being “muslim” is the new “black”, since racism against blacks is so yesterday.


38 posted on 08/24/2010 9:48:49 AM PDT by w4women ("All great change begins at the dinner table". Ronald Reagan)
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To: philman_36
Their "god", IMO, is nothing more than a book and a man who made known his idea of how the world should work in that book.

Their god is one they invented that encourages murder and lying. Our God is a living God that encourages moral lives. They invented one that mirrors the worst in mankind. They are polar opposites, one good, one evil. We know who wins this one.

39 posted on 08/24/2010 9:50:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: philman_36
Their "god", IMO, is nothing more than a book and a man who made known his idea of how the world should work in that book.

Sorta like John Calvin and the doctrine of Sola Scriptura?

40 posted on 08/24/2010 9:55:46 AM PDT by r9etb
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