Posted on 08/20/2010 2:39:14 PM PDT by mnehring
As if we needed anymore proof of Ron Paul’s anti-American treachery — and no, I am not speaking of his inclusion in the Democrats’ list of favorite Republicans (though it’s also quite telling), — he’s finally waded into the Ground Zero mosque controversy where — unsurprisingly — he’s chalked it all up to yet another conspiracy theory, fomented by those war-lovin’ neo-cons:
“I think it’s a big distraction, a grand distraction from the real issues… To me it should have been a grand opportunity, and you really touched on the opportunity, because it’s really a property rights issue, and who owns the property? And it’s also a civil liberties issue. It’s a freedom of speech issue… Property rights and civil rights are one and the same… drives the neo-cons nuts… I don’t believe for a minute that the, quote, religion of Islam is our enemy.”
Really, Ron? And I suppose Al-Qaeda is just a CIA fantasy, too?
For the record, the majority of Americans and politicians who oppose the mosque fully understand the constitutional right to build it. Then again, most of us also understand that Islam is a strident political ideology wrapped up in the cloak of religion, and that jihadists committed an act of war against the United States on September 11, 2001 — not the United States government — all in the name of Islam. Further, understanding the history of Cordoba, we are cognizant of the fact that such a mosque is nothing short of a monument to their bloody victory over the “Great Satan” and 3,000 of its citizens on 9/11.
I know its tough for you libertarians — much like your foreign policy kindred spirits, liberals — to place a moral judgment on anything, but out of respect for 9/11′s grieving families, it would be nice if you’d grant them some deference on this emotionally supercharged, morally reprehensible issue. It would also be refreshing if you’d actually give your country the benefit of the doubt, instead of blaming it for the existence of a so-called religion that preaches death to infidels, practices pedophilia, commits unspeakable crimes against women, and actively engages in a worldwide, genocidal movement with the ultimate goal of imposing a worldwide Muslim Caliphate.
In short, since you’re so fond of conspiracy theories, maybe you can believe in one that’s actually true: Global Jihad. Then temper your constitutional remarks about the Ground Zero mosque with some intelligence and real compassion for your own countrymen — especially those who lost everything on 9/11.
I didn’t see this one.
I’ve had this argument with you before.
There is no category called “Pro-choice for states”
That category is one you or someone else made up.
The way it works today, in the US, is that there’s Pro-Life and Pro-Choice.
If you’re in favor of Roe v Wade, you’re Pro-Choice.
If you’re against Roe v Wade, you’re Pro-Life.
Because Ron Paul is against Roe v Wade, he’s Pro-Life.
That’s just how it works.
If Roe v Wade were overturned, it would be great, and there would be a heck of a lot fewer abortions in the US.
People might still want more laws after that. But the key thing is getting rid of Roe v Wade.
Once Roe v Wade is gone, any time after that federal laws can be passed.
The important thing for Pro-Life is that Roe v Wade be overturned. And Roe v Wade is still in place. It’s important that the right judges be nominated. And Ron Paul would nominate the right judges.
No it isn't. Roe v Wade is a court opinion, a stupid one. In it the author admitted that if the fetus is a person, "OF COURSE" they are protected by the Fourteenth Amendment.
"Pro-Life v Pro-'Choice' is about whether or not our most fundamental and necessary principles as a free republic will be respected and adhered to or not. The principles upon which our lives and our liberty rely.
Blackmun knew intellectually he had to dehumanize the child to allow abortion.
Ron and Rand Paul, and those who agree with them, are worse than Blackmun. They don't argue against the personhood of the child, or for Roe. They simply say that states' rights supercedes the unalienable right to live. They choose to simply ignore the clear provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment, and the Eight Amendment, and the Fifth Amendment, and the Constitution's Statement of Purpose in the Preamble, and the founding principles in our nation's charter, the Declaration of Independence, and the natural law, and God's Law.
Almost all people in the United States, at least a vast majority, think that Pro-Life vs Pro-Choice is determined by the candidates position on Roe v Wade. And Ron Paul is 100% against Roe v Wade, which to most people makes him 100% Pro-Life.
But I get that you see it differently. But you’re in a tiny minority that sees it that way. I’m not saying that you’re way of seeing it is wrong.
No, I didn't. You're a liar.
“History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.” — Ronald Reagan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctity_of_Life_Act
I should add that Ron Paul was a sponsor of the Sanctity of Life Act.
Yes you did. You’re an idiot.
Republican wars mean Republicans lose.
Like liberals, libertarians live for personal entitlements rather than rights.
"Wants what he wants when he wants it -- and thinks that constitutes a natural law." --Robert Heinlein
Dream on, traitor. America's military men and women are successfully sending your Jihadist comrades to hell.
Republicans lost in 2006 and 2008 because the Iraq War was extremely unpopular, and enough people were fired up about the Iraq War to vote for a Leftist.
Wars mean we lose. I don’t want Big Leftist Government in the US because you want to fight an endless war against Islam that most Americans do not want.
Straight out of the DNC/Islamofascist talking points memo.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same." --Ronald Reagan
The war was very unpopular then.
See Gallup polls and every single other poll.
Do you dispute that fact?
We lost in 2006 and 2008.
Do you dispute that fact?
The "Sanctity of Life Act" is one of the most deceptive things ever offered up. It simply doesn't protect the sanctity of life. It doesn't require the states to do their sworn duty and protect the unalienable rights of every person.
Can't he just go crawl back under the rock he came out from?
If "almost all the people in the United States, or at least a vast majority," thought that jumping out of airplanes at thirty thousand feet without a parachute was harmless, would you head for the airport?
Libertarians and the Islamofascists lost pretty badly.
"We are especially not going to tolerate these attacks from outlaw states run by the strangest collection of misfits, Looney Tunes and squalid criminals since the advent of the Third Reich" --Ronald Reagan
The Barack rock.
"What they are trying to do is what they've done every election cycle which is to use terrorism as a club to make the American people afraid, to win elections, that's what they're trying to do." --Barack Obama
The irony though is that the Paul foreign policy is pretty much what is being promulgated by this White House and this State Dept.
What are you talking about?
Things certainly weren’t worse when we had control of the house and the senate. If we had control of the house and the senate now, we wouldn’t be having Obama’s hellblizzard.
Do you not care about that? As long as we’re fighting wars in the Middle East, everything else is fine to you? Keeping Obama from getting anything else passed is priority #1. You seem to be motivated by something else.
"What they are trying to do is what they've done every election cycle which is to use terrorism as a club to make the American people afraid, to win elections, that's what they're trying to do." --Barack Obama
Republicans won't win by embracing the enemy. That Obama's popularity is crashing the more he exposes his support for them must terrify you.
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