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RX for Tehran: Take Three EMPs and Call Us in 40 Years
Leibowitz's Canticle ^ | August 18, 2010 | Leibowitz

Posted on 08/18/2010 1:14:11 PM PDT by Bob Leibowitz

Dateline: Tel Aviv

From this moment the State of Israel declares a state of war exists between the State of Israel and the government of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Because Israel views the threats by the government of the IRI in conjunction with its efforts to develop nuclear weapons and means of delivery as existential threats, Israel will take all actions necessary, specifically including unilateral and preemptive military action, to protect its citizens from the threats posed by representatives of the government of the IRI and to assure Israel's continued survival.

To minimize civilian casualties, the population of Iran should immediately and permanently evacuate populated areas within the IRI. We intend to demolish the government of the IRI and its current leadership and to permanently destroy the capacity of the Islamic Republic of Iran to manufacture weapons of mass destruction and to reduce, for generations, its capacity to manufacturer modern weapons.

Unfortunately, our actions will have widespread and lasting effects... However, we cannot consider these costs in a vacuum. If we do nothing, Israeli's will die. Israel will die...

To the government of the Syrian Arab Republic, we say: from this moment forward, any attack against the northern border of the State of Israel, any attack from the territories of Lebanon or Syria, any rockets or missiles fired from those territories will be considered by us as an attack by Syria against Israel. We will respond directly. Our goal will be to demolish the Syrian regime.

We recognize that this announcement is likely to increase verbosity from world leaders and that much of it will be condemnatory toward this announcement and our intent to take unilateral action to protect the Jewish people... The time for words has passed. We look forward to peace we create...

(Excerpt) Read more at Canticle4Leibowitz.com ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; obama; terror
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1 posted on 08/18/2010 1:14:13 PM PDT by Bob Leibowitz
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To: Bob Leibowitz
To the government of the Syrian Arab Republic, we say: from this moment forward, any attack against the northern border of the State of Israel, any attack from the territories of Lebanon or Syria, any rockets or missiles fired from those territories will be considered by us as an attack by Syria against Israel. We will respond directly. Our goal will be to demolish the Syrian regime.

Don Corleone: You talk about vengeance. Is vengeance gonna bring your son back to you and my boy to me? I forgo all the vengeance in my son. But I have selfish reasons. [after saying that Michael is returning to the U.S.] I'm a superstitious man, and if some unlucky accident should befall him, if he should get shot in the head by a police officer, or if he should hang himself in his jail cell, or if he's struck by a bolt of lightning, then I'm going to blame some of the people in this room. And that, I do not forgive. But that aside, let me say that I swear on the souls of my grandchildren, that I will not be the one to break the peace that we have made here today.

2 posted on 08/18/2010 1:22:02 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Would 3 well placed W-88’s do the trick?


3 posted on 08/18/2010 1:26:44 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Too big. These need to be little, tiny guys, something on the order of 20KT or even smaller.


4 posted on 08/18/2010 1:29:46 PM PDT by Bob Leibowitz (Response, Free Republic, news)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Someone’s been reading One Second After...


5 posted on 08/18/2010 1:34:45 PM PDT by ILikeBourbon
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To: ILikeBourbon

The problem with EMPs is that the tend to not be very discriminating. Israel may very well put themselves back into the stone age too! From a talk I attended LONG ago - an airburst EMP would have a 1500 mile radius.

Yep - two of em could take out the continental US.

So Israel could take out Iran - but also Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan (nothing in Afghanistan except our high tech..)

Doesn’t sound like such a great idea now does it.


6 posted on 08/18/2010 1:43:43 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: fremont_steve

Actually, the active radius for an EMP is a function of three items: the altitude of the blast, the size of the blast, and the structure of the electric grid below the blast. A low-level, low-yield blast such as I’ve described would affect an area of 50-80 miles, while the pulse itself, traveling on the grid, could theoretically go out to the end of the grid. Three blasts would not even cover all of Iran, let alone non-neighbors.

High-altitude, high-yield blasts are a completely different animal. Theoretically 2-3 of those could send the U. S. back a century or more.


7 posted on 08/18/2010 1:49:33 PM PDT by Bob Leibowitz (Response, Free Republic, news)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Pocket nukes.


8 posted on 08/18/2010 2:02:48 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: fremont_steve

Of course, thinking about how backwards Iran is, all their nuclear electronics and systems may be non-solid state.

They probably have daisy chained 10,000 Marshall tube amplifiers to run the whole program.

Oh yeah, and turned them to 11...


9 posted on 08/18/2010 2:08:26 PM PDT by ILikeBourbon
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To: ILikeBourbon
Horrifying to experience, one would imagine after having read it,(great book, great author!)
but...a backward-thinking group of religious fanatics might well desire a return to the past, socio-economically, technology-wise speaking :)
10 posted on 08/18/2010 2:13:17 PM PDT by 45semi ("Islam has bloody borders" - Samuel Huntington)
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To: Bob Leibowitz
Whose to say Iran hasn't done the same as our military/corps/government entities, shielded all important equipment?
11 posted on 08/18/2010 2:19:42 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Not completely implausible; it could be a question of Israel hitting Tehran with an EMP before Tehran detonates one over Jerusalem. Who cares if Jerusalem is knocked back into the Stone Age...it’s a short trip. Many would argue that removing all modern technology from the City would be an outstanding idea.

Ditto for Syria, Jordan, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Iraq. They were all the least trouble when the Ottoman Empire merely slaughtered sufficient numbers of them occasionally to keep the Jihadis in check, and left them all to wander in the desert and eat each other’s camels.

Doesn’t sound like such a bad idea to me...


12 posted on 08/18/2010 2:24:19 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Now what kind of a geroo are you anyway?)
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To: wolfcreek

“Whose to say Iran hasn’t done the same as our military/corps/government entities, shielded all important equipment?”

It’s undoubtedly shielded. Persians are not stupid people.


13 posted on 08/18/2010 4:02:00 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

I have searched all the Israelie and Middle Easter news sites and find no corroborating info on this. Where did this come from other then Leibowitz?


14 posted on 08/18/2010 4:47:06 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

CynicalBear — This isn’t true. Yet.


15 posted on 08/18/2010 6:48:19 PM PDT by Bob Leibowitz (Response, Free Republic, news)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...

This is the best blog-pimpin’ piece in quite a while. Thanks Bob Leibowitz.


16 posted on 08/18/2010 7:18:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

SunkenCiv — Thank you, I think. I started writing it in February.

Don’t be too surprised if something like this happens. Defense Minister Ehud Barak thinks outside the box, way outside, and has balls of steel. Teamed with Prime Minister Netanyahu, there is no chance that they’ll allow Iran to proceed to put Israel at real risk of extinction.

Barak lost his maternal grandparents in the last holocaust.

Just because the rest of the world thinks in conventional terms: squadrons of airplanes, flocks of cruise missiles, doesn’t mean that’s the way it will happen.

Any idea how difficult it is for the media to cover a story when there is no transport, no electricity?


17 posted on 08/18/2010 8:00:48 PM PDT by Bob Leibowitz (Response, Free Republic, news)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

Israel doesn’t even need to risk its planes — it has missiles that can deliver its nukes or conventional high explosive from at least 1500 km away, and gosh, for some reason, keeps some ready-to-fly in underground silos. Weird coincidence. :’)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSLH613423
http://www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/Israel/Missile/index.html


18 posted on 08/18/2010 8:42:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Bob Leibowitz

“CynicalBear — This isn’t true. Yet.”

Then it shouldn’t have been posted without a tag and trolling for hits is pathetic.


19 posted on 08/19/2010 6:54:26 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Bob Leibowitz; Black Agnes
Israel would not nuke first. They would more likely use a few dozen Jericho III ICBM's carrying not nuclear warheads but 1000kg Tungsten or depleted uranium penetrators. The kinetic energy released is .75 Kilotons, focused on a small area. A few of these hit any target and it is gone. Israel would hit nuclear facilities and a few air defense sites with these and submarine-lanched cruise missiles. Then the 100 F-16I and 25 F-15I fighter bombers streak in escorted by 20 F-15Cs and dozens of UAVs to mop up remaining nuclear sites.

The problem is that the Iranian army, navy, Revolutionary Guard, and Hizbullah remain unharmed. These will strike at Israel with conventional weapons, missiles, and terrorist attacks. Iran will likely try to close the Straits of Hormuz and hit American targets in the region. Many oil facilities in the Persian Gulf are likely to be attacked by Shi'ite terrorists. Hello $200/barrel oil for a month or two. Of course, if the US were to immediately crush the Iranian airforce and navy, the damage would be lessened.

20 posted on 08/19/2010 6:42:18 PM PDT by rmlew ("To put an end to amnesty once and for all...it is time to 'regularize' the status of John McCain.)
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