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Is Obama Illegally Occupying the Oval Office Because He Is Not a Natural Born Citizen?

Posted on 08/15/2010 11:00:39 AM PDT by Man50D

Freepers have been debating for some time if Obama is or isn't illegally occupying the White House because he does or does not fulfill the natural born citizenship requirement in Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution. I thought it would be interesting to put the matter to an informal vote to see where Freeperland in general stands on the issue. OK Freepers, start spewing!


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; truthers
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To: Man50D
BO's/BS's father was not an American citizen and therefore could not transfer his citizenship to BO/BS. The law required a parent to be physically present in the U.S. at least 10 years, five of those years after the age of fourteen. She needed to be at least 19 years of age. She was only 18 years old and therefore was too young to transfer her citizenship to BO/BS.

The age of his mother would only matter if he were born in another country. Since he was born in the United States, he didn't need someone to "transfer his citizenship." According to the 14th Amendment, he was a citizen at birth.

121 posted on 08/16/2010 10:54:03 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
The age of his mother would only matter if he were born in another country. Since he was born in the United States, he didn't need someone to "transfer his citizenship.According to the 14th Amendment, he was a citizen at birth."

The age of his mother is relevant since BO/BS has failed to prove he was born in the United States. The Fourteenth Amendment does not negate the natural born citizenship requirement in Article 2 Section 1. One part of the Constitution cannot negate another unless it is in accordance with Article V.
122 posted on 08/16/2010 11:16:41 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: imahawk

> “...where us Birthers...”

What, all 2 of you? Nah, I think I’m fine right where I am here, thanks. :)


123 posted on 08/16/2010 11:45:27 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: SledgeCS

Being anti-birther does not by definition make one pro-Obama.

Logic fail.


124 posted on 08/16/2010 11:46:24 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Man50D
The age of his mother is relevant since BO/BS has failed to prove he was born in the United States.

At this point, only conspiracy theorists believe he wasn't born in the United States. Also, people who don't realize Hawaii is, in fact, part of the US.

125 posted on 08/16/2010 1:17:42 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: jamese777

Even if the court ordered obama/Hawaiian records to release the original birth certificate. Hawaii or obama would not. And who would make them do so. The DOJ under Holder would step in and block it in anyway possible.


126 posted on 08/16/2010 1:34:35 PM PDT by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: Kleon
At this point, only conspiracy theorists believe he wasn't born in the United States.

The DNC sent one version of the nomination document to Hawaii containing the passage BO/BS was Constitutionally qualified as seen below:



Another version with the Constitutional passage omitted was sent to the other forty nine states.



Why didn't the DNC simply send the Constitutional passage to the other forty nine states if BO/BS is a natural born citizen?

At this point your statement is mere conjecture.
127 posted on 08/16/2010 5:16:47 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Jonah Vark

What are the two documents that could prove if the internet COLB was issued by the Hawaii DOH?


128 posted on 08/16/2010 10:55:04 PM PDT by jdirt
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To: Man50D

Obaama is definitely not a natural born citizen.


129 posted on 08/17/2010 1:12:33 AM PDT by Red Steel
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