Posted on 08/01/2010 8:57:49 PM PDT by geraldmcg
Finally when it appeared that the truth was going to come out once and for all about Obama's mysterious birth, the State Department wiggles out of producing records of Obama's mama's by saying that some circa '60's documents were destroyed, and that the records of Obama's mama, Stanley Ann Dunham, were missing.
This let down was the apparent end of a trail from a Freedom of Information Act request for those documents.
But the some documents provided from teh Freedom of Information Request, included two different locations and dates for STanley Ann Dunham's marriage to Lolo Soetoro, Barack Barry Hussein Obama's step-father from Indonesia.
At this point ANYTHING is possible because all we’ve ever been given has shown up to be inconsistent with what few facts we can document. I will actually be surprised if there’s anything we’ve been told that actually turns out to be TRUE. If there is anything true that we’ve been told, I haven’t found it yet and I’ve been looking for a while.
I have long believed in most of what you suggest here. Eventually...probably at the end of eight years of Presidency....someone will lay out proof of all of this. I think the Pakistan trip is the one item which will start the stumble. Oh, and instead of the British passport....I think it was a Kenyan passport.
The Brits have an FOIA - ask them to provide information about young Obozo's passport!
Thanks, I tend to just apply "Occam's Razor" to the whole issue and its what keeps coming back.
Your comments on FR are among the best there are. Absolutely.
The price the rats are going to pay is all the illegal garbage this moronic clown has done will be nullified.
I'd be willing to believe that with solid proof (hospital or home birth, it doesn't matter). If hospital: which hospital? If home birth, name the address.
The other two points--(1) born to a foreign national father (strike one) and (2) adopted by another foreign national father and becoming a citizen of that father's country (strike two)--remain valid. They are damning. Unfortunately most American voters today wouldn't understand their significance.
Such absolute BS;
The government back then and still always keeps records, and transfers them to other mediums for safe keeping…so once again the sneak, cheat and liar just continues being so.
Your post is perfect till the last few words. I don’t think its been proven if they don’t understand or simply wouldn’t care.
“Fukino did say they have a birth certificate for him..... ...Obama had to use a BC from somewhere else”
Obama has TWO birth certificates? How does that work?
He’s been using some kind of official birth certificate his whole life long. My suspicion is that it’s a Kenyan BC.
Then in 2006 when he was considering a 2008 run for the presidency he amended a BC in Hawaii so that he can say he’s got a BC from there, even though it has no legal value because it’s been amended.
Since then he’s had to work on swapping out the one he had been using until 2006 with the one from Hawaii. But he knows that can’t really work because the one from Hawaii has no legal value and would never have been accepted for any of the things he used it on. So his entire strategy has to be to keep everything hidden. The only legally-valid BC he has is from someplace besides the US.
Based on everything the HDOH has told us, I believe that Madelyn Dunham submitted a report of a birth to the local registrar on Aug 8, 1961. But she forgot to include one of the 2 required medical pieces of information. Hawaii allowed a month for the child to be examined by a doctor in Hawaii, who could complete the medical items without any note of the BC being late or altered.
If this is what happened, then in 2006 Obama most likely got his communist doctor in Chicago to send a page from the medical record which had that birth detail included, taken from his Kenyan BC but not noting where the information had come from.
Obama’s BC in Hawaii now has a note saying that it was amended in 2006 by adding this medical detail.
The problem for Obama is that the only reason that medical detail would not have been available in 1961 when his grandma filed the report is if Obama was not in Hawaii within the first 30 days of his birth to be examined by a Hawaii doctor and have his BC completed.
IOW, even though the BC he has in Hawaii does claim a Hawaii birth (which is all Fukino claimed in her July 2009 statement), the amendment he made very strongly suggests that he was NOT born in Hawaii.
And the BC has no legal weight because it was amended. It can only acquire legal weight after it has been presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body and they determine that is probative. Obama won’t allow that to happen - probably because the BC itself seems to refute the claims on it.
Thanks for your vote of confidence and encouragement. Things have been rough here the last few days and it means more than you can know.
Well, whatever else we disagree about, you are absolutely correct about that.
To me, the person who calls himself "Barack Hussein Obama" is a symptom, not the disease.
The disease is the fact that it was possible, even for a second, for him to be considered for the Presidency.
And, by whatever means he leaves office -from evidence of ineligibility being produced tomorrow to the inauguration of his successor in 2017 - if the disease is left untouched, we are finished.
Absolutely. That is what very few seem to comprehend. This whole thing with Obama has exposed just how vulnerable we are - because the government, media, and law enforcement are all so corrupt and the system as currently interpreted by the courts leaves no avenue for the people to hold any of these entities accountable before they inflict irreparable damage.
We are in serious doo-doo. The Founders warned us about this, and what they feared has come to pass. Unless America wakes up and realizes just how serious the situation is and insists on closing these vulnerabilities, America is done.
I am encouraged by Michelle Bachman, who said that if the R’s take the House they need to have wall-to-wall investigations just to get to the bottom of all the crap this nation has just suffered under.
There’s another thing I should add. We have freedom of the press and that is absolutely vital. But there is a federal law called the Federal False Information Act, which makes it a federal crime for anybody to deliberately deceive Congress - by what they say or by what they don’t say.
I was just in a tussle with Hutch News regarding their inaccurate statement that the HI SOS had come forward with Obama’s birth certificate. They refused to correct that statement. They could say it’s their prerogative to refuse to correct that because they have free speech. But it is also a federal crime to deliberately deceive Congress.
I know for a fact that my Congress critters relied on the Factcheck COLB and Fukino’s statements as reported by the press. I know that because I have letters from them saying so. I also know for a fact that the media sources and Fukino’s office have been alerted to the inaccuracy of their statements. I know that because I have the e-mails I sent them and which they ignored.
There are a heckuva lot of people who broke that federal law. And unless we hold them accountable for doing so, they can continue to deceive the American public including Congress - which is how this whole thing was able to happen.
If we can get people serious about the need for the rule of law, there is some serious, serious doo-doo that needs to be dealt with, and every media outlet who had the truth and instead reported deception better be shaking in their boots, as well as every government and law enforcement body who did the same.
Here is a site which describes the law I referenced.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/98-808.pdf
A person doesn’t have to know that they are deceiving Congress. It doesn’t have to be a sworn statement or specifically presented to Congress. All that matters is that the person deliberately deceived and Congress ended up being among those deceived.
“The price the rats are going to pay is all the illegal garbage this moronic clown has done will be nullified.”
Do you think so? I’d love it, but would be happy (as a start) to see ANY of it nullified. Don’t think it’ll be possible, though, until after BHO’s out of office (please, God!), as he’ll veto any repeal(s) passed.
Only someone with presidential powers can veto.
If the Republicans are serious about undoing the damage they have only to file a lawsuit claiming that he is not able to veto anything because the 20th Amendment forbids him from having the presidential powers, since he “failed to qualify” by Jan 20, 2009. (The birth facts alleged on his amended Hawaii BC have never been legally determined, since it requires a special procedure for an amended BC, and Obama won’t allow that to happen).
And by the time the case was decided it would be too late for Joe Biden to veto it either.
The question is whether the Republicans, in the face of this communist coup, have the will to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America - which they eached swore an oath to defend.
Did they mean it, or were they just going through the motions? That will decide the fate of this country.
Each, not eached. lol
I habitually read as much of this information as possible, but I don't know about the 2 pieces of medical information required. I apologize if I missed it, but could you please repeat the medical information?
Secondly, do we know that he has a Communist doctor in Chicago? How do we know, or is that hyperbole?
Thirdly, going back to the missing passport records for Stanley Ann, the question should be asked whether she even owned a passport before 1965. We already know exactly where she was most of the time between 1961 and approx. 1964. She was going to school in Seattle, WA and Honolulu, HI where she met Lolo Soetero. She didn't need a passport to travel either place. And if she snuck off to have a child in Vancouver, Ca in 1961, she didn't need a passport to go there either. Most people in those days did not have passports, unless they were wealthy and world travelers. I don't think she qualified as either.
My mind is open to all kinds of shenanigans about this family. But it is possible that there were no passport records to expunge before 1965.
Fourthly, Madelyn Dunham couldn't have a Hawaiian doctor examine that baby for the medical facts needed for a valid BC because Stanly Ann was in Seattle attending UW summer school 2 weeks after he was born.
The big missing piece of this woman's life is where she spent her "confinement". Nobody saw her and there is no record of her between Dec. 1960 and Seattle in August/Sept. 1961 when she showed up to enter school with a baby in tow. There may be a beach picture from that period where she doesn't "show". But, do we know the actual date of the picture and the location of the beach?
Of course there are those nude pictures of her taken posing in a well furnished apartment decorated for Christmas around Dec. 1960. It is thought to be Frank Marshall's apartment, the perverted Communist writer & photographer. There ought to be DNA tests demanded, but I don't know any way to do that.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.