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Education secretary calls for 12-hour school days, longer school years
The Daily Caller ^ | 07/28/2010 | Paul Conner

Posted on 07/27/2010 9:41:20 PM PDT by Brugmansian

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To: muddler
Where the hell's this guy been, they already do all of that and more.

Well, you don't really expect the guy to say "Really step up the Marxist indoctrination" do you? (Not that they don't already do that too)

121 posted on 07/28/2010 10:03:11 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: supremedoctrine

His mommie runs a school for poor kids on the South Side of Chicago. Bunch of limo liberals feeling good about themselves. That is the template I think her son uses. Every kid in America is in that bad shape and needs the Duncan family to help them.


122 posted on 07/28/2010 10:43:18 AM PDT by Brugmansian
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To: eclecticEel

What happened on March 21?


123 posted on 07/28/2010 12:00:42 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Brugmansian

Or we could turn education over to the private sector and compete internationally in half the time it takes the government schools.


124 posted on 07/28/2010 1:49:31 PM PDT by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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To: J Edgar

Post #19 I couldn’t have said it any better. Excellent post.


125 posted on 07/28/2010 4:25:27 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Thanks for the extremely kind words!


126 posted on 07/28/2010 4:30:39 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Still Thinking

The House passed socialized medicine.


127 posted on 07/28/2010 5:28:58 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: lonestar

I guess it would be beneficial to students to have church organizations come in and try to offer after school programs. But do you really think any religious organization will be allowed to operate in public schools.

No, I think it is another secular program for the government, using our money, of course.

In the CA high school where I work, we already provide free breakfast and lunch, free pre-natal care and vitamins, free daycare, free student supplies in many classrooms, and free transportation during the regular school day. What’s another few hours and another meal!?! Wake up, America! The students taking all these handouts have no allegiance to the United States. They even root against us at soccer games. They take.They don’t know how to give— not even their loyalty.


128 posted on 07/28/2010 5:30:53 PM PDT by Melian ( God is even kinder than you think. ~St. Teresa)
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To: ReneeLynn

No, she should go home to her own children. Here in CA, our district has contracted with the teachers, through their union, to be at work until 3:30 every school day. The employee parking lot is practically empty at 2:40.

I know my view is skewed since I work at a public high school in CA. If my child wanted to be a teacher, I would immediately send them to school in a different state so they could experience, and be trained by, high quality teachers.


129 posted on 07/28/2010 5:35:34 PM PDT by Melian ( God is even kinder than you think. ~St. Teresa)
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To: eclecticEel

Ah, OK, then we’re in full agreement on your tagline.


130 posted on 07/28/2010 5:45:41 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: pogo101

Kids need time to be kids. They need to explore and play. They need time to be with their families. Would you enjoy a 12 hour work day, 7 days a week?
Children are not miniature adults. They have vastly different needs.


131 posted on 07/28/2010 5:53:05 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: Melian
But do you really think any religious organization will be allowed to operate in public schools.

I don't think that would be a good idea! But churches have excellent facilities in many instances that sit empty most of the week...that could be used for after school programs.

What I really meant to say is that churches and government roles have reversed over the years. Rather than feeding the poor and hungry, today churches all too often line up to pressure government to have more entitlement programs...from their tax-exempt buildings.

132 posted on 07/28/2010 6:32:47 PM PDT by lonestar (Barry is furious the big spill wasn't caused by EXXON...would have nationalized it by now.)
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3
I think I made myself misunderstood. I didn't say I agreed with his specific prescriptions; I said, and I quote, "Not sure he is wrong (that kids need more serious schooling for the modern era ahead, a better work ethic inculcated early)" (emphasis added). There are many ways of achieving that general goal, and I didn't say I shared this guy's, as you presume.
133 posted on 07/28/2010 6:50:55 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101

I disagree that children need more serious schooling early on. I think they need time to be kids.


134 posted on 07/28/2010 8:02:10 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Wow, moving the goal posts, there. I think kids can have PLENTY of time to “be kids” AND have more serious schooling than is now provided by a typical public school. I should think a home school mom would agree. Please don’t reply; we’re done.


135 posted on 07/28/2010 9:00:50 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101

Touchy when someone doesn’t agree with you, aren’t you?

I didn’t change the goal post. You have been trying to qualify your original statement since you made it.

As a homeschool mom I don’t believe in making children full time students.

You obviously think they need more serious schooling and I think they need more time to just be kids.

We can disagree without you being testy.

Don’t expect to insult me and have the last word.


136 posted on 07/28/2010 10:38:57 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: pogo101

Touchy when someone doesn’t agree with you, aren’t you?

I didn’t change the goal post. You have been trying to qualify your original statement since you made it.

As a homeschool mom I don’t believe in making children full time students.

You obviously think they need more serious schooling and I think they need more time to just be kids.

We can disagree without you being testy.

Don’t expect to insult me and have the last word.


137 posted on 07/28/2010 10:39:04 PM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: christianhomeschoolmommaof3

Actually, I didn’t insult you, and you are lying by saying I did. But I will now: You are a liar.


138 posted on 07/29/2010 5:29:59 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: J Edgar
CommieCrates have a well thought-out plan, and are well on their way to implementing, while the GOP Leadership stands on the sidelines being congenial.

I heartily agree with you up until the, while the GOP Leadership stands on the sidelines being congenial. At this point with Congress having only an 11% approval rating and still falling, it is the American people standing on the sidelines being congenial.

We wait, in our "civilized manner" for the ballot box of November, but if the leadership ain't doin' it now...they ain't gonna do it after November either.

When does congenial become too chicken? When do policies and laws clearly against the Constitution get called for what they are...treacherous and traitorous?

When do we call those in DC, sworn to uphold...what is it...oh yeah the Constitution, failures. They have failed to uphold and execute their sworn duties. And no, I am not talking about democrats here. I am talking about Republicans and their congeniality contest. Dear Republicans, it is time to break a few rules of parliamentary procedure or are you too chicken?

139 posted on 07/29/2010 5:47:43 AM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: Persevero
Kids need downtime; time to do nothing; time to waste; time to try and often fail; time to oversleep; time to stare into space; time to pursue their own interests, as ‘useless’ as they may seem; time to daydream. They aren’t machines.

Indeed it is the wild imagination that leads to innovation. To take that away from our children, to take that ability away, to disallow wild freedom of imagination is to doom them in their adult lives. Twelve hour school days under constant control...the evilness of such an idea is astounding.

The only thing that comes to mind at the moment is the wife beating husband/boyfriend who doesn't let his woman out of his sight, the religious cults that use constant observation to brainwash and the child abuser...dear Lord save us.

140 posted on 07/29/2010 5:54:47 AM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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