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Two Pictures Say Thousands of Words about the Challenges Posed by Obamacare (Out-of-Control)
ATR ^ | 7/22/10 | Jeremy Weltmer

Posted on 07/22/2010 12:08:02 PM PDT by Andrea19

The Center for Health Transformation recently released two charts detailing the effects of Obamacare. The first of the charts depicts the 158 new agencies, bureaus, commissions, panels, and other organizations created by the legislation in an organizational chart, and the second of the charts maps out the various implantation deadlines required by the legislation...

Read more: http://www.atr.org/two-pictures-thousands-words-challenges-posed-a5240#ixzz0uRIUfOos

(Excerpt) Read more at atr.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Reference
KEYWORDS: bho44; democrats; fail; obama
The administrative state is a state of insanity.

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1 posted on 07/22/2010 12:08:05 PM PDT by Andrea19
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To: Andrea19

The only type of job these guys can creates are the ones for BureaucRATS. Just another breed of RAT.


2 posted on 07/22/2010 12:27:31 PM PDT by Surrounded_too (Robot machine guns and the Dirty Dozen)
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To: Andrea19

” ... the various implantation deadlines”

Wow, I knew Obamacare was invasive, but ...


3 posted on 07/22/2010 12:27:56 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Andrea19

Idiots are trying to duplicate (in one year) the medical and health insurance infrastructure that has taken 100 years to develop.

There are not enough computers and brain cells to accomplish such ambition.

There is only one way that government could direct the delivery of citizens’ medical care - NATIONALIZATION!!! Which means confiscation of this most private, productive and successful system/asset.


4 posted on 07/22/2010 12:28:21 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: Andrea19

Wow. I might send those to the plotter at 36” x 24” so I can hang them on my wall.

;-)


5 posted on 07/22/2010 12:30:34 PM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Andrea19; Free ThinkerNY; freekitty; MamaDearest; seekthetruth; flat; unkus; oswegodeee; Nachum; ...

Reprehensible crooks and power-hungry ghouls. Does this look like other dictatorships in history to you with the same soul-less scum running this dictatorship?

These are the enemies of freedom that will dictate whether or not you deserve to live or die according to their whims. The Ruling Class will check their database to see if you’re one of their enemies before deciding your fate. Think not? Count on it.


6 posted on 07/22/2010 12:33:04 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010.)
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To: Andrea19

The “two pictures” referenced in this thread title are not really “pictures” — they are .pdf files:

http://www.atr.org/files/files/159%20Agencies%20Map.pdf

http://www.atr.org/files/files/WallChart_CHTHealthReformTimeline.pdf


7 posted on 07/22/2010 12:33:58 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Andrea19

Just the size of this bill alone should have been enough of a reason to vote it down.

There’s no reason for these 1000+ page monstrosities unless they’re trying to load it up with special interest payouts.


8 posted on 07/22/2010 12:44:33 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Andrea19

I saw that horrid mess and I kept thinking about what one moonbat told me concerning healthcare: “Well we have to do SOMETHING!”


9 posted on 07/22/2010 12:45:50 PM PDT by Cheesel (So this how democracy dies...with thunderous applause, March 21, 2010)
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To: Andrea19
grimliar

Unless this is repealed people, will die.

screamkill

10 posted on 07/22/2010 1:02:40 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: Andrea19
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I'm not a real doctor, but my teleprompter plays one on TV.

11 posted on 07/22/2010 1:03:13 PM PDT by newheart (History is an outbreak of madness--Ellul)
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To: Andrea19
Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Bad Laws and Unintended Consequences, part 1.

Obamacare Rips Doctor-Patient Relationship Apart

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)


12 posted on 07/22/2010 1:08:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

They need to go.


13 posted on 07/22/2010 1:19:04 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Andrea19

How any of that translates from paper to reality...is anybody’s guess. it is outrageous!


14 posted on 07/22/2010 1:20:52 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Andrea19; All

Linked to: http://www.atr.org/files/files/159%20Agencies%20Map.pdf


Linked to: http://www.atr.org/files/files/WallChart_CHTHealthReformTimeline.pdf

Oi vey!


15 posted on 07/22/2010 3:08:59 PM PDT by rpierce (We have taglines now? :)
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To: Andrea19

Consider for a moment our “intelligence” infrastructure, as described by the WaPo. Now substitute “healthcare” for intel, and imagine our lives to come.


16 posted on 07/22/2010 6:04:13 PM PDT by Excellence ("A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.")
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