Posted on 07/20/2010 7:36:49 AM PDT by DTogo
If Obama Imposes the U.N. Gun Ban On America, Which Would Dissolve Our Bill Of Rights And Orders Gun Confiscation What Will You Do?
The new United Nations Treaty is being designed to disarm citizens of each nation that signs. The treaty will give all governments a free hand to do as they please. It is making headway in Washington D.C. and it is feared that President Obama may very well try to use the treaty to consolidate his power in America. The treaty specifics are now being negotiated and Obama has given the OK For the U.S. to be a part of the negotiations.
As of June 2010 Obama supports the soon to be written treaty, which would end our Bill of Rights and destroy the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment has been the crucial amendment that is there to guard against tyranny.
(Excerpt) Read more at stumbleupon.com ...
In the mean time you might want to learn how to load one. We’ll need re-loaders.
Maine is one of the most pro-second amendment states in the U.S.
If Snowe and/or Collins went along with this, they would be drawn and quartered by the (many) gun owners of Maine.
This Senate would probably ratify it...
The hurricane in New Orleans provided the local government with an excuse to seize legal guns and kill resisters.
The current regime is afraid of normal people shedding their sheep’s clothing and standing up for their rights.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a repeat of the New Orleans stuff on the national level.
Really? Why haven’t those two ugly wenches been drawn and quartered by now?
Or at least had a bag put on their heads?
Are they the daughter or granddaughters of Helen Thomas?
That is true, Seruzawa. Article 2, Section 2 of the Constitution states:
He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2
DTogo is correct about Article 6 concerning treaties, once signed by the President and ratified by the Senate, become the law of the land. Article 6 link:
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Article6
and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land;
You need 66 Senators and they are never going to find 66 senators.
The best they might do is 62 but they would still fall short and I have my doubts about finding even 50 votes.
LOL!
I have to grind me teeth when I hear either one of them speak.
The keep getting re-elected because the democrat party runs ultra-leftist moonbats against them. In comparison, Snowe and Collins look good (which they’re not).
I wish the ballot had a box to check which says, “None of the above.”
can you write in doggie bag?
I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that the section you underlined in Article 6 of the Constitution does not pertain to legally ratified treaties being overruled by the Constitution, but to the supremacy of the Constitution itself. You replaced the semi-colon with a comma. The semi-colon ';' separates different sections of the paragraph concerning Supremacy of the Constitution. Below is the entire Supremacy paragraph in Article 6:
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
Also, I recall a few years ago, the Supreme Court ruled that once a treaty is legally entered into and ratified, that it becomes the law of the land and supercedes previous laws, including the Constitution. I can't recall the case, but I believe that the Supremes did say a treaty does overrule the Constitution. I may be wrong, but I do recall reading about this a few years ago.
I do hope you are right, Vendome, and that I am wrong, but my memory says the Supremes did rule recently that legally ratified treaties do supercede U.S. Law.
And don't forget the ammunition!
Vendome,
My apologies about the comma - semi-colon thing. I was in error about that.
Americaone
Whatever Grammar Nazi. It is called an “excerpted quote”, hence I did not give it a “full quote”, “paraphrase” or even summarize.
I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, last night, so I am confident using and excerpted quote is completely acceptable.
Besides you put the semi-colon in the wrong place as you did not call out the words before and after where it should exist.
And no, The Supreme Court never ruled the Constitution can abrogated or marginalized by treaty.
You may be worshiping at the alter of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who has a penchant and love of international law and wants to achieve some sort of uniformity above or in exception of The U.S. Constitution. However, she and you will not achieve your vaunted dream without at least three more justices on your side, who will rule in favor of international law.
Not going to happen.
I still stand by my original summary.
No treaty can abrogate the Supreme law of the land, in which all executive, judges, senators, etc must abide by and any treaty entered into must achieve a majority and affirmative vote of no less than 2/3rds the Senate.
That isn’t going to happen either.
Oops! and I just gave you an excoriation.
My apologies for being so quick.
LOL
Somebody mentioned LISTS?!?! Military veterans, firefighters, emergency service technicians, V.A. patients, law enforcement, are all ALREADY “identified” by the federal government!
Should this bastard-in-charge kneel and curtsy to the U.N.’s gun laws, I’m putting on war paint, buying my urn on E-bay, and making sure that “little play things” are all nice and clean, and well-fed. There is a “No surrender” in Arabic picture I have saved as a JPG file, should somebody wish it for themselves, free. I swore an oath as a military member to protect and defend the Constitution. Any questions?
Of course, you will have already legally changed your name to “None of the above”, yes? ;)
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