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Jobs No American CAN Do
Pajamas Media ^ | July 3 | Scott Ott

Posted on 07/03/2010 10:34:30 AM PDT by AJKauf

In the battle over immigration reform, some believe we need to grant amnesty to “undocumented workers” because they do the jobs “Americans won’t do,” as George W. Bush once said. But there’s a new class of vacant jobs in U.S. manufacturing — call them “the jobs Americans can’t do.”

According to a story in the New York Times, many jobs, even in this recessive economy, go unfilled because employers can’t find applicants with the skills to perform them....

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1 posted on 07/03/2010 10:34:33 AM PDT by AJKauf
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To: AJKauf
According to a story in the New York Times, many jobs, even in this recessive economy, go unfilled because employers can’t find applicants with the skills to perform them....

Offer more money and soneone will find the skills. I would bet that they interview qualified candidates who exit laughing when they hear the offered wages.

2 posted on 07/03/2010 10:52:12 AM PDT by magslinger (If recycling makes cents as well as sense, I am all for it.)
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To: magslinger

The free market works with the labor market too. These greedy bastards don’t see that.


3 posted on 07/03/2010 10:57:23 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: magslinger

“...qualified candidates who exit laughing when they hear the offered wages.”

I wonder how many of them end up laughing all the way to the fry machine ?


4 posted on 07/03/2010 11:03:46 AM PDT by PLMerite (The FR clock is now three minutes fast.)
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To: magslinger
"I would bet that they interview qualified candidates who exit laughing when they hear the offered wages."

That's precisely the issue. The employer can't find workers with the skills they need AT A SALARY THEY WERE WILLING TO PAY!

They use this same hogwash when it comes time to justify H1B visas in the tech industry: We've have these two-dozen programming jobs (must be expert with .net, java AND cobol, BSEE, expert in 4 different development lifecycle methodolgies etc.)open for the last 6 months and are unable to fill them.

The part they DON'T mention is that these jobs require 12hr days and pay $26.50hr without benefits.

5 posted on 07/03/2010 11:04:04 AM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, Uss Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: AJKauf
Try to find someone who can do math at a 9th grade or higher level.

You'll be looking for a long time.

Need someone who can solve a second order differential equation?

Good luck. Those 4000 Americans are already employed, mostly teaching math at universities.

I can imagine 3 generations from now, when our descendants come across a mothballed Atlas V booster in the ruins of a former Florida launch center, and pointing to it as proof that super-advanced aliens visited earth in the past.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

6 posted on 07/03/2010 11:07:47 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Mariner

Maybe freepers need to get themselves aqainted with the concept call economic nationalism. Technology should not be solely in the hands of private enterprise who would not hesitate to sell to our enemies and competitors for short term profit, or worst give away our standard of living. Simplest historical example of economic nationalism is anicent China’s experience with silk. It was one of the few technologies that the Chinese solely owned and no one at that time could fathom how it was produced. The Chinese government forbade its technological export and had sole control of it, thus China and her people were able to profit from it for nearly five centuries. What it means is the US better start doing an inventory of its techn base and determine which ones they solely dominate and start restricting private industry and academia from freely sharing with foreign competitors and nations. Control that and it will form the basis of the US renaissance and high paying jobs for middle America. Otherwise the cheap manufacturing and labor costs of China and India will allow corporate America/globalists to enslave us forever.


7 posted on 07/03/2010 11:37:10 AM PDT by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Mariner

>>”I would bet that they interview qualified candidates who exit laughing when they hear the offered wages.”
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>That’s precisely the issue. The employer can’t find workers with the skills they need AT A SALARY THEY WERE WILLING TO PAY!
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>They use this same hogwash when it comes time to justify H1B visas in the tech industry: We’ve have these two-dozen programming jobs (must be expert with .net, java AND cobol, BSEE, expert in 4 different development lifecycle methodolgies etc.)

Hm, I’m nominally interested. Though I have to say Java (any and all C-style languages) is not my preferred language, and I don’t have any experience with COBOL or BSEE. (I’ve never heard of BSEE.) To be honest, I’d rather use Ada; which can, coincidentally, be compiled for either the JVM or .NET.

Does the job require relocation? If so, to where?

>open for the last 6 months and are unable to fill them.
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>The part they DON’T mention is that these jobs require 12hr days and pay $26.50hr without benefits.

Salaried $26.50/hr AND 12 hr workdays -> $318/day -> $1,590 week (assuming 60/hr work-week AND no overtime pay)
With overtime, that would be ($26.50 * 40) + ( (1.5*$26.50) * (60-40) ) = $1,060 + ( $39.75 * 20 ) = $1,060 + $795 = $1,855 {/wk}


8 posted on 07/03/2010 11:37:35 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Mariner

It’s become pretty d@mn obvious that almost no American understands the free market anymore. We’ve got employees with no skills thinking that the world owes them everything with a cherry on top... And we’ve got employers who think the world owes them uber-supermen that will work for nothing.

And then they all cry to the government when their fantasies aren’t realized. Unions and their brain-dead ilk to the Democrats and business to the Republicans.

What both fail to realize is that we had, and still somewhat do have a free market. For most ALL goods AND services. And one type of service is a person’s labor. Hence a labor market.

And just like if you go to Wal-Mart and try to offer $50 for that nice 40” flat screen TV, you’ll get the same reaction if you offer $26/hr wages for and uber-tech guru. In other words, you’ll be laughed out of the market.

But instead of simply trying to pay what the current market rate is, whether for that nice 40” flatscreen or the uber-tech guru, most Americans now demand the government force the market to give them what they want at the price they want and d@mn the consequences.

And well, we are now starting to SEE the conseqences now.

It’s long past time that the government, for the most part, simply got out of the market. Keep the anti-monopoly laws in place, but BUTT OUT of labor, wages, and hiring/firing policies of our businesses.


9 posted on 07/03/2010 11:54:26 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: The Comedian

Fear not, Comedian, we homeschoolers are on the job.


10 posted on 07/03/2010 11:59:29 AM PDT by Persevero (What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ - G. Wash.)
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To: The Comedian

” descendants come across a mothballed Atlas V booster in the ruins of a former Florida launch center, and pointing to it as proof that super-advanced aliens visited earth in the past. “

Never heard it put like that but you’re right!


11 posted on 07/03/2010 12:03:57 PM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: Persevero

“we homeschoolers are on the job.”

God, I hope so! We’re doomed as a nation otherwise.


12 posted on 07/03/2010 12:04:45 PM PDT by CodeToad ("Idiocracy" is not just a movie.)
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To: The Comedian
Try to find someone who can do math at a 9th grade or higher level. You'll be looking for a long time. Need someone who can solve a second order differential equation?

My three homeschoolers entered community college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13. All three finished all college general courses and Calculus III by the age of 15. The younger two earned B.S. degrees in math by the age of 18. The older of these two earned a masters in math by the age of 20. A required part of her program was to teach undergraduate mathematics.

13 posted on 07/03/2010 12:05:41 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: magslinger

Our government-dominated “education” sector no longer educates despite its ever-increasing expenses; teachers and educators in the primary and secondary schools have devolved into glorified, overpaid babysitters who only intermittently give an occasional vestigial not to actual education. High schools decline to graduate more than one in four American teenagers domiciled in America; various colleges and universities ultimately graduate a quarter.

Of those high-school graduates who received the diploma credential this spring, however, how many actually understand algebra? Some public high schools still teach some (or even most) students well, thanks to dedicated teachers and academics-focused principals. Others, especially in the inner cities, offer very little education whatsoever, graduating teenagers who cannot read their diplomas (despite lacking disabilities like blindness). And in many high schools (and middle schools), students just attend sporadically to consistently, demonstrate minimal effort, and never master the subjects that reflect the titles of the classes, but take their credentials anyway.

Universities actually may prove worse at educating their “customers” despite the very high prices attached to their credentials. Governments provide or guarantee a considerable proportion of their budgets. But they scarcely compete on the education that they provide. Instead, universities often compete on the quality of their sports teams, recreation facilities, and social experiences with only a putative nod to vestigial academic excellence. In many departments, students may demonstrate minimal effort but still receive their credentials if they pay adequate tuition and fees. In others, indoctrination supplants education; students morph into dedicated communists rather than skilled, knowledgeable individuals capable of autonomy in a free society. In still others, the quality of instruction has devolved to the pitiable point where it does not confer education.

I could go onward and discuss how twelve years of diurnal incarceration at an institution distorts the mind and corrodes the soul. I once told my little sister that school is a compulsory penal institution for the crime of having been born (instead of the “wise choice” of killing her as an unborn baby). But I’ll note this: despite the demonstrably slowly failing government-dominated “education” sector, despite its voracious consumption of ever more tax dollars, despite its failure to improve results, our government has a cure: it will take vastly greater control over another sector it already almost dominates: health care. Look for slowly degrading quality and ever-escalating cost with ever more confiscatory taxes to eviscerate the rest of the economy, perhaps even enhancing demand for medicine of a quality that it only sporadically provides.

On the other hand, it is entirely possible that, after enduring their confiscatory burden of taxes and regulatory expenses (including government-imposed “fees” and “fines”), private companies cannot pay wages that allow an individual a greater income as an employee than the income that a professional welfare recipient, especially a skilled, hard working one, receives.


14 posted on 07/03/2010 12:08:22 PM PDT by dufekin (Name our lead enemy: Islamic Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Islamofascist terrorist dictator)
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To: OneWingedShark

Bachelor of Science, Electrical Engineering


15 posted on 07/03/2010 12:10:05 PM PDT by utax
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To: OneWingedShark

Bachelor of Science, Electrical Engineering


16 posted on 07/03/2010 12:10:13 PM PDT by utax
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To: AJKauf

bump


17 posted on 07/03/2010 12:15:21 PM PDT by VOA
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To: utax

Ah, I see.
I’m 3 cr/hrs away from a Bachelor’s in Computer Science.
I took a total of one EE course; the one for [computer] Architecture.


18 posted on 07/03/2010 12:36:42 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Persevero; wintertime
God bless the homeschoolers.

You are, literally, our only chance at retaining any of our ancestral knowledge and thereby holding the promise of re-instituting our greatness (once we are relieved of the monsters currently killing us off).

And by the way, I'd hire your kids in a second, but they have to be paid offshore.

I don't do business under this regime, and I refuse to feed the Beast with any taxes.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

19 posted on 07/03/2010 12:39:15 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Congratulations!

I hope you are richly rewarded for your hard work and sacrifice! I hate to think where I would be today without my education.


20 posted on 07/03/2010 12:40:13 PM PDT by utax
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