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The Gulf Disaster -- You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet!!!
Pennsacola Fishing Forum ^ | 06-15-2010 | Unknown

Posted on 06/15/2010 9:37:36 PM PDT by CWW

What BP and the Government Are Not Telling Us:

The Deepwater Horizon Well Is Going to Collapse Soon Resulting in an Uncontrollable Oilcano.

The recent failure of the Top Kill ("mud kill") attempt revealed that the well bore structure is compromised "Down hole", i.e., the well pipes below the sea floor are broken and leaking. That's why the Top Kill procedure did not work.

What does this mean?

It means they will never cap the gusher after the wellhead. They cannot. That sort of leak is one of the most dangerous and potentially damaging kinds of leak there could be. It is also inaccessible which compounds our problems. There is no way to stop that leak from above. All they can do is relieve the pressure on it by opening it up (like a opening up a garden hose nozzle to slow a leak in the line). This down hole leak will undermine the foundation of the seabed in and around the well area. It also weakens the only thing holding up the massive Blow Out Preventer's immense bulk of 450 ton.

What is likely to happen now?

Well...none of what is likely to happen is good. In fact, it's about as bad as it gets. I am convinced the erosion and compromising of the entire system is accelerating and attacking more key structural areas of the well, the blow out preventer and surrounding strata holding it all up and together. This is evidenced by the tilt of the blow out preventer and the erosion which has exposed the well head connection. What eventually will happen is that the blow out preventer will literally tip over if they do not run supports to it as the currents push on it. I suspect they will run those supports as cables tied to anchors very soon, if they don't, they are inviting disaster that much sooner.

Eventually, even that will be futile as the well casings cannot support the weight of the massive system above with out the cement bond to the earth and that bond is being eroded away. When enough is eroded away the casings will buckle and the blow out preventer will collapse the well. If and when you begin to see oil and gas coming up around the well area from under the blow out preventer, or the area around the well head connection and casing sinking more and more rapidly, it won't be too long after that the entire system fails. BP must be aware of this, they are mapping the sea floor sonically and that is not a mere exercise. Our Gov't must be well aware too, they just are not telling us.

All of these things lead to only one place, a fully wide open well bore directly to the oil deposit...after that, it goes into the realm of "the worst things you can think of" -- The well may come completely apart as the inner liners fail. The very least damaging outcome, as bad as it is, is that we are stuck with a wide open gusher blowing out a minimum of 150,000 barrels a day (about 6.75 million gallons) of raw oil or more.

All the collection efforts that have captured oil will be erased in short order. The magnitude of this disaster will increase exponentially by the time we can do anything to halt it and our odds of actually even being able to halt it will go down.

The magnitude and impact of this disaster will eclipse anything we have known in our life times if the worst or even near worst happens.

We are seeing the puny forces of man vs. the awesome forces of nature. We are going to need some luck and a lot of effort to win...and if nature decides we ought to lose, we will.


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To: Williams

To work. The relief well needs to have an intact bore above where it penetrates.


121 posted on 06/16/2010 2:23:00 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (m)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You are correct- Drilling is needed to
lower the high pressure in the field,
which may lead to a worse blowout.
Not a ban on drilling. That field has
billions of barrels of oil. it is a formation
under that deep valley in the Gilf that
runs north under AL. They could drill on land
to help also. Put the oil on the market. The
surplus could improve our economic world
forever. Ed


122 posted on 06/16/2010 2:23:39 AM PDT by hubel458
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To: Natural Born 54

At this point I am thinking NO ONE CAN BE WORSE THAN OBAMA!

Biden would be a breath of fresh air compared to the boy king.

Then we could also disagree with his politics without being accused of being a racist. Of course none of that would matter libs will just say some other equally stupid thing to discredit a logical argument.


123 posted on 06/16/2010 2:33:12 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: PA-RIVER
This is like threatening the doctor with a law suit while your on the operating table.

Great analogy.

What a stupid D$%k we have in the oval office.

Biggest one EVAH!

124 posted on 06/16/2010 2:33:45 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: CWW

It’s much worse that that. The Earth will actually split in two because of this.


125 posted on 06/16/2010 3:01:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Carling; SmokingJoe
The Gulf is will become a sea of oil.

ALL THE OCEANS WILL BECOME SEAS OF OIL!!!!!

126 posted on 06/16/2010 3:07:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: CWW

Too bad the Environmentalists didnt allow them to drill..2 adjacent wells when this thing started they would be done by now and the thing would be a trickle.

Than you again liberal doogooders...Thanks for the oily mess.


127 posted on 06/16/2010 3:15:58 AM PDT by Therapsid (Communism has killed 50-60 Million people in only 50 yrs.)
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To: Natural Born 54; mojitojoe

128 posted on 06/16/2010 3:47:50 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: CWW

The article strikes me as very frightening speculation. I don’t buy the premise.


129 posted on 06/16/2010 3:49:23 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (The Left draws criminals as excrement draws flies. The Left IS a criminal organization.)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Yes, they did understand.

Do you understand that when you drive to work today you may be killed in a fiery head-on collision? ...and you’re going to drive anyway?

They knew the risks, they took the risks, they - we - lost.


130 posted on 06/16/2010 4:04:26 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: Munz

At least Biden is an American.


131 posted on 06/16/2010 4:11:03 AM PDT by Natural Born 54 (FUBO x 10)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

” drill the heck out of that deposit, and produce all the oil. Because the alternative, is to have it all flow out unchecked into the Gulf of Mexico?”

Thats exactly what I am saying. Produce it or lose it. Multiple wells should quickly reduce the reservoir pressure and allow plugging of the leaking well bore....red


132 posted on 06/16/2010 4:32:11 AM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: Crim
First off...any detonation would be UNDER the sea floor...not simply “underwater”...

So since we're talking about a mile deep, and we can't find a way to cap a well above the sea floor because it's so deep. How do you propose to dig this hole to put the bomb, so it's "UNDER the sea floor"? Robot bomb hole diggers.

133 posted on 06/16/2010 4:56:58 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Arkansas Tider
Google is your friend, stop making an idiot of youself. We have tested hundreds of nukes below sea level.

If it's such a good friend, provide a link. Where and when were underwater detonations? Death valley is below sea level, but not underwater, no? And if you're taking beneath the sea floor, just how do you dig a hole to place a bomb a mile underwater?

134 posted on 06/16/2010 4:59:21 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: RetroSexual

Is that the idiot governor of Florida? Wonder what he had to pay the other guy to sit next to Obama, so he didn’t have to.


135 posted on 06/16/2010 5:01:02 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: CWW

This is in a small manner like the scenario of leading world leaders being told that the Earth will die in 24 hours.

What do you expect them to do or say to the people?

Its no wonder Obama came off talking in such a monotone, he has no idea what to do and frankly wants to get as far away as possible and just let someone else take the blame.


136 posted on 06/16/2010 5:07:50 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Minn

Look up operation Hardtack.


137 posted on 06/16/2010 5:08:40 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: Williams

BRING IN THE SKIMMERS OFFERED TO CATCH THE OIL!!!

Such a cop out, admit we are stumped, accept the help where ever it comes from....


138 posted on 06/16/2010 5:09:26 AM PDT by gulfcoast6 (God Is!!!)
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To: Minn

The already have a second well bore going..that’s how th russians did it...if had bothered to watched the video someone else posted.

The russians told the world 5 days after the accident...”yeah we nuked a few we had”...

No they werent a mile down under water...but they did it...more than once..

But at least this is a sorta admission you were doing the henny penny on spreading radiation all over the oceans.


139 posted on 06/16/2010 5:13:23 AM PDT by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompitence..)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I heard that this is the 7th most productive find in the gulf.


140 posted on 06/16/2010 6:46:57 AM PDT by CWW (Pray for God's Protection!)
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