Posted on 04/27/2010 4:21:19 PM PDT by pissant
April 27, 2008:
AJM: Hello Congressman, this is Jim
DH: How are things going?
AJM: Great. Last time we talked you were going through a canyon so it cut our conversation short a little bit, so I want to revisit….
DH: (laughs) We’ve gone through a lot of canyons over the last several months.
AJM: You certainly have.
DH: But listen, I’m a full service operator, so what’s up?
AJM: (laughs) Well first of all, before we even get into the old stuff, I think you’ve become aware of the raging controversy – quote, unquote – about Arizona passing their tough anti-illegal alien law.
DH: Just a little bit (laughs). What are the latest details.
AJM: Well, Obama has come out and condemned it and…
DH: Of course, but what are the latest details on the law, I only saw what was in the papers.
AJM: The law says that if they reason to believe you might be illegal, for example they pulled you over for some reason, and the police have the suspicion you might be illegal, they will ask you to produce your papers or documentation that you are legally in country. It’s not just rounding them up either. It’s questioning them when they are involved in the commission of some other disturbance or violation or police interface. So any times the cops have an incident, they are authorized to check on immigration status.
And as you know, Arizona has a very high population of illegal aliens. It’s basically what Maricopa County has been doing under Sheriff Arpaio for years.
DH: So they are authorized to check on immigration status then report them or deliver them to the Border Patrol if in fact they are illegals?
AJM: If in fact they are illegals, they’ll arrest them and hand them over to ICE or the Border Patrol.
DH: What is the status? Is it Law at this point? Last I heard it was sent to the governor.
AJM: It was signed into law by Jan Brewer, Governor Brewer, last Friday or Saturday, I believe. But goes into effect in 3 months. All the Border Control advocates have given her praise – in fact 70 to 75% of Arizonans are in favor of it. But you’d never know that from the unhinged proclamations from Obama, Napolitano – hell, even Jeb Bush came out against it. All the open borders queens are showing their slips.
DH: What a surprise.
AJM: (laughs) So I just wanted your take on the situation.
DH: Well first, it’s been traditional practice, a traditional and necessary practice for state and local law enforcement officers to refer offenders of federal law, or those who have broken federal law, to the feds in carrying out their law enforcement exercises on a daily basis. If you arrest someone for drunken driving locally, and you become aware of the fact that the person has also committed a federal crime in another state or in that state, you hand them over to the federal prosecutorial chain for disposition.
Now that’s been the traditional practice. It’s also a necessary practice of this country. And it works in reverse also in that people who are apprehended by the feds for violating federal law and are found to be in violation of a state law, that information is transferred to the state prosecutors. This way, both jurisdictions have the opportunity to deal with people who violated their laws.
The exception or avoidance of that practice has been historically immigration law. This is the once place where, thanks to the bleeding hearts, where this practice has often been ignored. I remember several decades ago, the mayor of San Diego, California had a written directive to the San Diego Police Department NOT to turn over illegal Aliens!
AJM: Was Rudy out in San Diego too? (laughs)
DH: He instructed them not to turn over illegal aliens apprehended under city statutes. It became a Sanctuary City where they didn’t turn over illegal aliens to the feds for prosecution or deportation. It was a direct order not to do so. So that was an example of the “exception”.
But my point is, in other areas of law, that’s always been the rule to hand over the criminals to the right authorities. It’s proper and necessary. It reflects the best of federalism; that is the cooperation between the state and federal jurisdictions!
So it is strange, yet not too surprising, that the federal government would object to that. You’d think that if they had someone guilty of drug smuggling under federal law or some other violation of federal statutes, you’d think Obama and Napalitano would appreciate the local jurisdiction turning that person over for prosecution. If the person is simply an illegal alien you’d think, instead of squawking, they’d also appreciate that since the federal government has NOT carried out its obligation to secure the borders!!
AJM: No doubt! The thing that has been common, I would say, if they find someone who is an illegal alien through some minor infraction like a tail light being out, that’s normally a fine, right? They’ve been letting them go!
DH: Well listen, lots of people who have violated fairly high level of law, who participated in severe violations of federal law, have been apprehended initially due to some minor infraction. Or identified or caught when they violated some minor law.
AJM: Yeah, they’ve even caught serial killers that way.
DH: So detaining illegal aliens, regardless of the violation, is in the best interests of Arizona and the country.
AJM: Absolutely.
DH: Listen, I’ve just had guests come in. I’ve got to sign off, Jim (laughs). One of my best buddies just came in the door here. I haven’t seen him for a long time. I think I owe him money. I’ve got to hang up and answer (laughter in backround).
So call me back in about an hour.
AJM: Are you sure that’s enough time?
DH: Two hours!
AJM: (laughs). OK
DH: But I’m glad we got that one nailed down. I think that apprehending and turning over illegal aliens, that reciprocity between jurisdictions in terms turning over violators is the best of federal practices. There is nothing abhorrent, strange or unusual about it! So good for Arizona for continuing the tradition.
AJM: The thing I think that Arizona did in the verbiage of the law that has the liberals and amnesty queens in a lather is; the way they allowed the police to arrest them regardless of the violation, they made it against the law in Arizona to be an illegal alien in the state and….
DH: In other words they made state law on illegal aliens consistent with federal law! Good.
AJM: Yep, it’s a darn good thing. OK. I’ll talk to you in a couple hours and we’ll revisit the old stuff.
DH: OK, thanks. Bye.
I think we need to have mixed party debates. Hunter isn’t the type to get overly agressive with fellow republicans but he can handle any of the democrats easily.
The CNN debate with all the lefty ringer questions really showed him in his element. While the rest of the candidates were whining about how unfair it was, Hunter was sending out letters to the democrats asking them to send more ringers. LOL
He coined the only memorable soundbite of the nominating season though. “We need to move away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican party”
The trick is to convince the guys with “sets” to run and discourage the RINOtards from gobbling up oxygen and $$ in the primary
Hunter’s a good man.
Did you notice who attended a Diamondbacks game with Jan Brewer two days after she signed Bill 1070 as a sign of public support? Hint: Her initials are SP.
Good for Sarah!
Hunter was my choice in ‘08. Before McLame was foisted on the people like a ‘savior’. More like a salivating politician who believed he is owed. Most likely he still does and will be back in ‘12.
Hopefully Hunter will throw his hat in the ring again. ‘We the People’ must straighten out the RNC or take our marbles elsewhere.
Well, Hunter has hinted at doing just that. He’s retired now so he won’t have to spend 3/4 of his time working the Armed Forces Budget and fighting back boneheaded legislation by his ex-colleagues. He will have one focus.
Well, that was a given! Unlike Jeb. Just one more reason Hunter’s loss is Americas loss.
“Build Duncan Hanter’s double border fence!”
Oh yeah!!!!
thanks
B4DH
Kevmo BUMP
THere are WAY too many cowardly fools in the GOP. How Hunter did not wring their necks, I’ll never understand.
“DH: So detaining illegal aliens, regardless of the violation, is in the best interests of Arizona and the country.”
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